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1805 Bust Dime, Net Grade And Approx Value?

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 Posted 04/14/2006  7:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all.
Just picked this gal up.
1805 Bust Dime

I am assuming is was in the ground, found, and cleaned.
Although it does have a shine from being cleaned, it is not a "slick" or what I see on a lot of Morgans.

So I am wondering what you would net grade it at, and what kind of price you would want if you were selling it.
Thanks!

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Edit: With coin in hand, I would say the vf30-xf details. I am figuring that by using the Whitman/ANA book.
Edited by jdheyne
04/14/2006 7:42 pm
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 Posted 04/15/2006  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi JD! Any early dimes(1796-1807) are quite valuable. This dime, even if it netted a G4 could be worth over $400.00 dollars(four or five berries on the reverse, same value until EF grade)with only 120K minted. I agree,the details look like a solid high VF. The soil damage, rim hits, gouges and harsh cleaning(looks like a wire brush! ouch!) are most likely going to play havoc on the net grade.

A trip to ANACS would help this coin. Just make sure to request a net grade. You will have to live with the old holder, but who cares? A VG grade kicks it up to about $500.00. The 1804 is the tough coin in this series with only 8265 minted!!(the 1798/97 13 stars reverse is no slouch either!) I love the series and this coin. It's been "around the block" but is way cool and very collectable! Are you keeping it or selling it? Mike
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 Posted 04/15/2006  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not know yet about keeping or selling...
I wish there was a way to easily modify the 7070.
Or if they would have a different album that is a true type set, and not just what they thought should be in. I am sure the reason they have what they have because more wouldn't want to fork over the cash for the flowing hair cents, and all that stuff.

This was the first one I seen and the price was more than right so I could not turn it down. I thought the reverse of this coin was awesome. It has more eye appeal than what the pictures show.
Definitely one of the neatest I have so far.
I also did not know these dimes were larger until I saw this.

I also found it interested there is no denomination on the coin...

I can see what you mean by what looks like a wire brush... you really cannot see much on the coin in hand

Jordan


It's on ebay now... I started it high because I expect people to talk me down. Anyone interested, make an offer!
Edited by jdheyne
04/17/2006 09:36 am
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 Posted 04/17/2006  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jordan, this dime looks like it was put against a bench grinder. But, as Mike said, any 1805 dime has a fair amount of value since they are so uncommon. I wouldn't hold out much hope of getting a net grade any more than AG-02; I think even G-04 might be stretching it. Nevertheless, it's definitely worth getting slabbed by ANACS if for no other reason than to get it authenticated.

Pricewise, I don't think I'd want to go by The Book on this. There's a couple listed on ebay (one is by Heritage, so no bids showing) and a couple past auctions have sold, respectively $281 and $53 - the latter can barely be identified as an 1805 dime:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1805-Draped-Bus...mZ8403848389 . If I wanted it badly enough, I'd keep bidding until everyone else dropped out. Similarly, I'd bid heavily on an 1856 Flying Eagle cent which was run over by a locomotive just to fill out the series in my collection. This 1805 is just too uncommonly offered to put a realistic value on it. Set a price, wait long enough, and someone who wants the date badly enough will come along.

...Which brings up a philosophical (but relevant and oft asked) question: at what point of rarity would PCGS and NGC ignore the damage and slab it anyway with a net grade? If somebody submitted an 1804 Bust Dollar (15 known) which was in similar condition to PCGS or NGC, would they slab it or bodybag it? After all, a rare coin is a rare coin. (I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this question; I just wanna see what others might say.)

Since this dime is in such poor condition and is obviously unsellable, I'd be happy to take it off your hands so you won't have to worry about it. I'll send an SASE to you so you won't have to bear the burden of postage.

(Seriously, it's a really nice find!)

Fred
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 Posted 04/17/2006  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking back through the ANA Book, This may even have XF Details. The scratches that you saw pictured above were not really there... not sure why they showed up. These pictures are better.
Thanks!
Jordan
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04/17/2006 11:32 pm
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