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Well My Company Just Decided To Liqudate My Department (All Of It)

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 Posted 01/29/2026  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear the news...

Do remember that the SSA benefit reductions are basically a zero-dollar net present value calculation...

https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/longevity.cgi

At Age	Additional Life Expectancy
(in years)	Estimated Total Years
63	20.8	83.9
67	18.0	85.0
70	15.9	85.9


20.8 x 12 x $1600 is around $400k

15.9 x 12 x $2600 is around $500k in (estimated) total benefit

But simplifying to a single payment in July of every year and assuming 5% inflation, the difference in net present value is $258k vs $252k.

You largely ignore inflation from 63->70 because the payments increase each year (although this doesn't keep up with inflation, it's theoretically supposed to).

The higher benefit is - statistically - paid for fewer years.

You need to figure out a way to bridge to age 65 and Medicare. Not that it's great, and managing it seems to be a full-time job, but it's effectively a large group policy that's cheaper than you can buy individual coverage.

Now for SSA, if you can bridge to age 70 it's certainly easier to live on $2600 vs $1600 grown via 5% inflation to $2250...

This is a case where you need to hire a fee-based retirement advisor (not a financial planner, because their justification is to sell you products).

But you need somebody to run YOUR numbers.


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 Posted 01/29/2026  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So sorry Dearborn, that's tough. I hope something comes along soon for you.

Yeah you could start takiing SS now at reduced rate. Nobody knows how long we'll live, if it's better to start now or wait.

My daughter has worked for an insurance company for 20 years. She was told recently their claims department is being eliminated, taken over by AI. There's a chance to transfer to another department but she may have to move, uncertain times for those losing their jobs.
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Yeah you could start taking SS now at reduced rate. Nobody knows how long we'll live.
This is my FREE advice. "Put a pencil to it" and you will be shocked at how long it takes before waiting pays off. In my wife's case it was 10 years and 5 months past full retirement age before the total collected by waiting exceeded the total collected by taking SS "early".
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 Posted 01/29/2026  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear that Dearborn. It sounds like you're skilled in the electricians field, why not hit up the Local IBEW? Having been a Laborer all my life & part of the Local 185, every time I was laid off from a job, I'd always get back on the Out Of Work List & the Hall would find another job/employer for me. Apply for U.I. benefits because losing your job was not your fault.

A word of encouragement, us "old guys" are still very much employable because millennials & gen z are afraid of getting their hands dirty. I've seen so many Apprentices walk-off jobs because their back & feet hurt too bad to keep working.
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Thanks everyone! lots of great advice, I'm already planning on maybe filing for SSDI but I can't go back to work for a year and that would drive me nutz! If it comes to keeping everything or losing it all, SSI is my second choice (but it would just kill me to take it early)

So, for now, I'm stopping all non-essential purchases (like coins) reducing any and all expenses I can. I do get a disability payment from the VA of just over $4K so I'll be able to keep the house (and hopefully the utilities.) then siphon from my skimpy savings. The biggest kicker is that I just purchased a $50K CD that I can't touch for 12 months...
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Also worth mentioning, food expenses can be defrayed by food banks and church food drives. Three times per year, I help to pack donation boxes for my church to give to the public. Signup is available to anyone. We give out a box of canned and dry food, a bag or two of fresh fruit, and a turkey at Thanksgiving and hams at Christmas and Easter. Another church in our town has a free clothing store open on weekends. I heard secondhand that it's getting a lot more customers now that thrift stores like Goodwill are jacking up their prices.
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Thanks Brand - funny you should mention food. I have save up about 12 'banker' boxes of canned food that I was planning to bring to St. Mary's Food Bank to donate, but now I think I need to keep it for myself.
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With your disability rating, you should be eligible for services through the VA's vocational rehabilitation office as well as through your state's vocational rehabilitation agency. Some or all of those services are free. They can help you find employment or create self-employment opportunities and can provide other assistance during a job search. With your employment history, you may be able to land a vocational counselor position with one of those agencies. Be sure to have them check out federal Schedule A employment opportunities for you.

Hang in there.
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 Posted 01/29/2026  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your intended good deed has been restored to you in a different form! Irony or providence? =)

I've always been a cheap eater. I enjoy cooking, and it's so much less expensive to cook for yourself rather than eat out. Especially after COVID, restaurants have gone completely nuts with prices. I can make 10 servings of fried rice for like $3, a good burger for like $2. I make all different kinds of soups, and I just started baking my own bread. My handmade gnocchi are a hit with even picky eaters.
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great ides @ fortcollins - thanks I'll be checking them out.

I cook fairly cheap too Brand. in one cooking episode I'll cook up enough to feed me for a week (or more with the help of my freezer.)
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Dearborn sorry to hear that your company is downsizing. In your opinion is this isolated to your company or is the hole area you live in slowing down. And do you have any experience with pulling and terminating data cables. If yes to data pulling and terminating I would visit your local IBEW. You may be surprised. The skilled trades are about to lose 50 percent of there workforce due to retirees. It may be worth a look see. Hoping it all works out for you.
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Dearborn sorry to hear that your company is downsizing. In your opinion is this isolated to your company

Thank you.

It is just my company - they don't want to have a 'cabling' department anymore. they are sticking to IT work.

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And do you have any experience with pulling and terminating data cables. If yes to data pulling and terminating

Oh, you bet I do - over 20 years at it. and Pulling of fiber optics and terminating it. I also create numbered floor plans to on-site technicians to follow for data drops. (I was a supervisor.)

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I would visit your local IBEW. You may be surprised. The skilled trades are about to lose 50 percent of there workforce due to retirees. It may be worth a look see. Hoping it all works out for you.

yeah, that may be a good idea, thank you.

and thanks
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I really think you have more options than you are giving yourself credit for. Good luck and keep us posted. When the time is right.
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https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retire...er/1960.html

Here's a months chart from age 62+ to full retirement age benefit. The longer you can hold off in collecting benefit the greater percentage to your income would be.
Good luck.
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I really think you have more options than you are giving yourself credit for. Good luck and keep us posted. When the time is right.

yeah well, I guess I'm still in shock and a "Why me?" frame of mind

Thanks macmercury - that was the first thing I did - to log into my SSA Account and see where I was at.
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