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United States
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Way outside my lane but had to take a chance. Thoughts on authenticity and grade if authentic?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Can you post a clearer photo of the reverse?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It looks like a casting to me. How does the edge look? Looking at the hit on the front of the hair and cheek, I would expect either dirt of surface pit in them. I had an electrotype of a 1793 Half Cent many years ago with the same look. |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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It looks like a casting to me. Interesting - I was going to say the hair details and date font look too "Fat" - patterns have to be tooled bigger than the original for the metal to flow properly through the molds...... |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I'm not into varieties but I thought i'd take the time to try and match this to any of the varieties listed on PCGS. the only match I could find with that vine position and that reverse is S9 R2 with a total mintage of 63,353 with just a handful graded there. VF details ( PMD) i am a little confused with your 2 reverse photos. the first shows very sharp devices and lettering whereas the last rev photo is more flat but all the marks match up. using the initial photos I had it at XF but seeing that reverse I lowered the grade  if it was mine it would be worth the shot for authentication |
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Way outside my lane but had to take a chance. Does this mean you actually own this piece? Raw uncertified as-is? That would indeed be a bold move.  Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Perhaps if you told us what you paid for it may help.
If genuine, that would be a 5 figure coin and no one
would sell it for a very low price.
Also I agree it looks cast as there is small detail missing.
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United States
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It is mine and price isn't going to be the deciding factor as the pawn shop had it as a 1796 and had no real idea. I took a chance for a hundred bucks or so as it does diagnostically match up but weighed 12.6 grams which is my concern and if it is a cast of an old coin I would be out of my depth!
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is mine and price isn't going to be the deciding factor as the pawn shop had it as a 1796 and had no real idea. I took a chance for a hundred bucks or so as it does diagnostically match up but weighed 12.6 grams which is my concern and if it is a cast of an old coin I would be out of my depth! So you did buy it for a $100? Even a pawn shop will know the true value of coins - that's probably their mainstay of business........ EDIT: It would be best to ask before you buy.......... Edited by Marv65
04/11/2026 10:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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For a hole filler in a 7070, I'd pay a 100 bucks for an electrotype or cast. You'll just never be able to sell it to get your money back.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'm going to revise my assessment which was based on the fact that you at least purchased this for a decent valuation. at that cost. there is no way imo this is legit. looking closer at that obv surfaces it makes sense that it is a cast and since it matched one of the more rare varieties. from a cast standpoint I would think someone would have to have had the original coin in order to cast a copy of it. I guess it would not take a lot of sales at say half the value of an authentic one to recover the acquisition costs then sell the original and walk away. I would be more suspect of the person you purchased this from for that price without giving an explanation why they only sold it for the price
am I way off here?
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Posted 04/10/2026 4:09 pm
