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Valued Member
United States
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These three have me completely baffled, I purchased the "Coin" on the left from a coin dealer for 1$, And he was nice enough to give me the other two free, Since he had no clue what they were, Though I don't either.  Anybody happen to know what these are, And if they are even coins? Thanks in advance!   Identified - moved to World Coin forum - Sap |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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One in the middle looks like Poland Ioan Casimirus 6 groshen(szostak)
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United Kingdom
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 Australia
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#1 is an Indian States copper coin, probably a paisa. Indian States coins were made the old-fashioned way, by hand, and are notorious for having dies that were larger than the actual coin - meaning that key design elements, such as the ruler's name and date, are often "off the flan". I can;t really say much more about this one, other than it's from one of the Hindu states rather than one of the Muslim ones - the script is Devanagari (Hindi) on both sides.
#2: Good call, valdiman, it's definitely from Poland - but this coin looks more copper/billon than silver. And I also think it's pretty small, if my ID of #1 is correct. (JOE, when asking for IDs, it always helps to include something in the picture for scale - either a ruler or a common known coin). I think this is a copper solidus (KM# 110). 1665 isn't one of the scarce dates.
#3: This is the only one that's not a "real coin". This is, for want of a better name, a "belly dancer coin" - an imitation of a gold coin of the Ottoman Empire, made for jewellery and decorative purposes. I think I can see tarnish on one side and a silvery colour wearing through on the other, so it's not going to be made from real gold.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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Nope, #2 is a 1 solidus coin. Definitely copper, small, and crude. This is a Polish version (similar coins with the symbol of Lithuania were also minted). These coins were minted in enormous amounts (for those days). At least you have the date clearly visible  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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My mistake ;-) pictures of solidus.Value about 1,5$-2$.   |
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New Member
Germany
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Number is three is not belly money! It is an Ottoman Para of Mustafa III., KM #296!
Afrasi
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Australia
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Well spotted, Afrasi! The para you mention is a billon coin - it's supposed to be silvery-grey in colour, not gold. I didn't think to look thorough the silver and base-metal coins for a design match. If it is a genuine para (and it looks like it could well be), then someone's gold-plated it to turn it into a jewellery piece. Here's an example on zeno.ru of what an unplated, undamaged para looks like. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
Germany
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Was easy, for I could compare with my collection. But You are right. The colour is a little bit strange.
But the golden colour on the piece above is on a large area already rubbed away, so you can see the silver again.
The style of "forged" belly money is also usually different, crude and worse.
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Australia
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And I believe I've finally found the first one: a copper paisa in the name of the founder of the Maratha Confederacy, Chhatrapati Sivaji, late 1600's, KM# 267. Something like this one on zeno.ru. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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