Three Pieces - (Fake?) Ancient Coin + Copper 8 Reales?

I'm afraid all three are fakes.

With the two CAR 8 reales, the biggest indicators of fakeness to me are the sunrays - they're not actually pointing at the sun! I also can't find any examples with "ESTADOS" in the obverse legend, as both of these have. I'd suggest e-mailing Swamperbob for an estimate of their likely age and origin.

As for the "ancient", the design is that of a Jewish Second Revolt (Bar Kochba rebellion) silver sela. Example on CoinArchives. A very commonly encountered "tourist copy".

Numismat No bother at all I love counterfeits. The two you have appear typical of early copper forgeries that were intended to carry a silver wash or plating. Some were even painted or dipped in mercury to pass. The crude nature of the dies points to a local origin or an origin in an area where originals were not commonly handled. I have one or two in my own collection.

I would hunt for any traces of an original coating as those can hold the key to the date. Electroplated coins are of later date than the washed type. Electroplating only developed in the 1840s or so. I would classify these as contemporary circulating counterfeits.

Wow thanks Swamperbob and Kristofferson. I had initially guessed that these may have been plated or washed at some point, but could find no sign. Now that I know it's Honduras, I've been able to find them in my book. Though after doing some comparisons, mine are very much cull examples.
Thanks again!