1849 Seated Liberty Half Dime - Overdate?

Coin looks fake to me...all the details look soft and mussy to me. For some reason the obverse just felt odd to me as soon as I viewed it. Also the tail for the 4 is that correct?

Waiting for someone with more knowledge on the series comes along.

OK, let's see if this helps. Honestly, the date doesn't look like any of the ones on PCGS. It seems like there's a split in the base of the one, and a vague secondary bit off the top of the upper serif on it. The eight has some kind of secondary image, and I don't know what's happening with the nine. That bit to the right of it might just be PMD, but it seems like there's something inside the loop at the top of the nine.

The photo is still not crystal clear, but I think I need to hook the camera up to a larger screen so I can manually focus properly.

Try this: NGC 1849/1--9 VP-002

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...1873/820218/

Date position looks correct... I wish NGC has full photos of the coin to match that die crack, but they often don't.

ETA: picture for Breen-3050

All I can say is Wow what a difference 2 sets of photos make, added photos are so much better

I truly wish NGC has an easily-searchable picture archive, broken down by year/variety, like the PCGS website does. NGC has an auctions search but it is more involved.

The date position on OP's coin appears to be a match with NGC's VP-002, but I would love to be able to confirm it. The large crack would be diagnostic, but even without anything major, you'd often be able to see die lines and whatnot just fine on TrueView images.

OK, I've had another crack at a photo during prime daylight hours with more adjustments to the camera settings, so hopefully a further improvement. Still learning the camera and the macro lens.

Thanks for the feedback on photos and variety possibilities. It's funny: the text in the Breen photo says no normal dates are reported. Yeoman does have a "normal date" as an option.

I have pointed out very minor doubling at the top of the one. It's there, but it's faint. The four has a secondary shadow along most of it along the undersides, in addition to whatever is going on with the crosslet on the four. There's also some weirdness in among the nine, and still that little thing poking off the right side of it, which is pretty distinctive if it's not PMD. The cuts of the 8 and 9 are quite different to the one you've shown, makecents.

I had to do a double take on the die crack, Altaira. I was wondering how I missed it, but then on the holder I had noted it back when I first put it in there. It is quite distinctive. Mind you, I've had this nearly 20 years. I'll see about submitting it to COC.

ETA: The difference between an overdate and a repunched date seemed like semantics to me. What is the difference?

In short, RPD's are re-punched digits of the same numbers, much like an RPM. OVD's (overdates) are from leftover working dies that had old dates punched in them already and a new, different date, was punch over the old, existing date. Here is a link that explains it more in depth.

Wexler link. https://doubleddie.com/58327.html

Very clear repunched date. No trace of a different date here, simply an 1849 punched twice.

Appears to be V-9 based off of Cummins's Half Dime variety guide: https://sites.google.com/view/clint...bution-guide