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The Winnipeg Canadian 30 Cent Coin

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Sorry I didn't post photos in my earlier thread but computer is fighting back. This coin weighs 4.5 gm. 1973 25 cent small bust coin struck on a 196x five cent coin. GENUINE!
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Can you explain this a bit more please.
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If that is struck on a nickel, but it shows the whole quarter and how do you know it's a 196?
Sorry I just can't rap my head around this.
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I believe a 196x nickel became lodged somewhere in the mints equipment and was knocked free in 1973 and found its way into the bin with 25 cent blanks. This coin weighs the proper weight of a 5 cent piece. Looking with a loop I can see the 196 and ADA below the front legs of the horse. The five cent legend is proper direction. Thanks for the question.
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What is the diameter? It appears to be the same diameter as the normal quarter. I agree that there is something strange here, but how could a nickel as a planchet show the full design and the reeded edge of a quarter?
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The weight is correct for a pure nickel 5 cents, and not for a pure nickel quarter. I would read the undertype date as either 1963 or 1965. I would agree it is a genuine overstruck coin; the quetion only remains as to exactly how it might have come about this way.

A finished coin can't simply "become lodged somewhere" in the coin presses such a way as to just "fall out" a decade later and happen to get struck again. What happened must have been somewhat more mundane: a finished 5 cent coin somehow got tossed into the blank hopper for quarters. Having that coin just sitting around on the mint factory floor for a decade before someone picked it up and tossed it into a hopper also seems improbable. Having someone surreptitiously slip a normal 5 cent coin into the hopper of blank quarters just for funsies also seems improbable. "Mint sport" also seems equally improbable to me, given the difficulty of retrieving such a coin from the coin stream after it was struck.

I am at a loss to find any other "most probable explanation" - apart from "It's a fake". And a counterfeiter making a realistic-looking pair of dies for a 1973 quarter and then using those dies to strike over the top of 5 cent pieces to make a net 20 cent profit per fake coin, seems even less probable. A counterfeiter making coins for circulation wouldn't have used the 1973 design for their fakes, since the whole point of counterfeits is to avoid too-close scrutiny, and 1973 quarters usually receive a lot of scrutiny due to their commemorative nature.

So it seems that the "best explanation" we have is that, somehow, someone brought a normal 5 cent piece into the blank preparation area, then that coin somehow fell into the batch of 25 cent blanks being prepared, and thus this coin was struck. An unsatisfactory explanation, due to all those magic-looking "somehows" in there.
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Thank you Sap! You have come up with an excellent explanation and the 5 or three is bang on!
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Very cool!
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