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Coin Or Token W/ "Cicero"

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 Posted 07/25/2009  9:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rkl5006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this coin, or token, with my metal detector. I cannot find any coins or tokens online like it. I think it is either copper or brass. The only writing I see on it is "Cicero". I don't see anything on the back. It is slightly larger than a quarter. A photo is attached. Has anyone seen anything like this?
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 Posted 07/26/2009  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your post just jumped out at me.
I had just watched the 1952 film "Five Fingers", about a WW2 German spy code-named "CICERO".

That is going to be a tough one to identify.
Cicero could be a town, there is one in Illinois, the home of Al Capone in the 1930's.
There was a famous Roman philosopher and politician named Cicero.

Good luck.
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 Posted 07/26/2009  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As you can see from my current sigline, Cicero was a Roman philosopher. The rather crude portrait is no doubt intended to be him.

Though the rough, irregular shape of this piece is no doubt intended to imitate an ancient coin, it is not ancient; while Cicero held high government positions during the final years of the Roman Republic, including Consul, he never had his own portrait put on coins. As an ardent believer in the Republic, he never would have wanted to.

What your object is, however, I have no idea. Perhaps part of a series of medals on ancient philosophers; perhaps a member's token from a philosophical society of some kind.
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 Posted 07/26/2009  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rkl5006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the answers.

We have property on an old trade route. We have found coins from the 1700s forward. There have also been a couple of old (100 - 150 years) homes on the property. We didn't expect that we had found a truely ancient coin (I have no idea how it could have gotten here AND the English is pretty modern to be an old coin!), but we thought it could have been some type of foreign coin we weren't aware of from the last century.

We are leaning more toward some type of token, etc. as the two of you have suggested. We have found some Cracker Jack presidental coins in the past and thought perhaps it was another "series" of coins from Cracker Jack. I'm thinking it is probably from the first half of the last century (maybe 1920s - 50s) and was either a prize (as with Cracker Jack) or some kind of carnival token. We have found some things like that in the past too. Maybe Cicero IL had some kind of festival and gave these out?

Again, thanks for taking the time to give your thoughts.
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