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Canadian Dollars 1935 To Date

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 Posted 08/10/2009  3:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello!

im com from austria, sorry for my bad bad english....i have a question: I have become a complette canadian 1 dollar collection from 1935 to date close in a " library of coin".i have see the same coins too dealer and I have see that the conservation grades its not correct.Here a MS 60= stempelglanz(absolute not a minimal scratch or same littelst damage, absolut perfect) when I see the canadian dealers or sellers too ebay , or online stores in internet what write that his coin its a unc, I'm think that its a VF/EF.....the valutation of this coins ( 1948 for example)its in high conditions very high.im think my pieces are all uncirculated, my question.
its ok when I strap ( damaged) the book, that I can graded the coin from anacs ( her in a european coin convention)or oter for find a correct graduation?i not will damaged the book for make a better pic...

thanks and best wishes from innsbruck
brutuss

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 Posted 08/10/2009  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a high mint state coin to me I would guess at least Ms-63 MS-64
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI!

thanks for reply.i m think that most parts of coins are minimum ms 60 (mint state)can I open (destruct) the book?
you think ebay.com its a option for sell this coin?
( I collect only austrian and italian coins and medals;-))
what the time now in canada;-)

regards
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I live in Vancouver Canada on the west coast it's 1:20 in the afternoon it would be 4:20 in Toronto.
The 1948 dollar you showed would bring a big dollar on e-bay I would think $2,000.00 upward. I would sell them all separate one at a time to get your best dollar for your coins post good picture's of each one. Good luck
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect your 1948 dollar is a fake. The letters RA in GRATIA appear to be touching and the reverse rim has heavily doubled denticles at the bottom of the rim. To my knowledge, neither exist on an authentic 1948 dollar.
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good eye mkb the letter do look like they are touching as well as the denticles are doubled. If your coin is fake I would not try to sell it at all it is against the law to sell counterfeit Canadian coins anywhere. You might want to get them checked by a coin dealer or get them certified to see what you have.
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for info!

ok, I will open the book.
the 48 its ok,the collector buy this coin in a important coin shop in canada jears ago.her better pi from 1948.in reality its better as pic, my camera its ot so god.

best wishes from austria
brutuss
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 Posted 08/10/2009  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ooops, pic.i have open the plastic:when you will more pics, please

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 Posted 08/10/2009  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so..better pics
the letter ra not touching and the denticles not are doubbled( the plastic reflect)now can say the 48 its ok?( I not selling fakes;-))
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 Posted 08/10/2009  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the better picture of the 1948 Dollar. In this image there appears to be separation between the letters R and A in GRATIA. But its definitely a counterfeit coin. The image and legend do not properly align with respect to an authentic dollar. Its worth at least its silver content and probably a bit more to a counterfeit collector. It would be interesting to know the source of this counterfeit. Note the doubling of the denticles at the bottom of the rim. Another give-a-way.
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 Posted 08/10/2009  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forums!
Can you tell me how much your 1948 $1 weighs in grams?
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 Posted 08/10/2009  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brutuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HI!
23,3 gramms, same weight as the not rare pieces.
mmmmmh...its not possible that the denticles are a strike problem?
the picture falsify the really coin.....
tomorrow will send good pics with good light for definitily opinions.
the coins are buy in canda ca. 15 jears ago.im not can say the name of coin dealer ( I dont now) I have buy this with a great gold collection ( canada modern complete gold and other gold bullions and onces)from a austrian collector (died)

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 Posted 08/10/2009  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
23,3 grams is the correct weight, and I have seen concentric lines through denticles before...perhaps due to die clashes or alignment?
Of course, a 1948 is the kind of rarity that needs an expert to examine in person to authenticate. I'm certainly not an expert on dollars, so I won't even attempt.
For a comparison, here's the obverse of a certified (PCGS) 1948 $1.

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 Posted 08/10/2009  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MKB is correct. The 48 is a known fake.
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 Posted 08/10/2009  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But its definitely a counterfeit coin. The image and legend do not properly align with respect to an authentic dollar.


MKB, can you please elaborate, mainly for my education (and hopefully that of others)? For instance, what letter(s) in the legend compare differently to what part(s) of the image on the topic coin when compared alongside a genuine example?

Being not the original poster, I have no interest in the value of the coin. I suspect most of us (like me) are interested in how to tell if the coin is fake, rather than simply whether it is fake.
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 Posted 08/10/2009  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Elonggated denticles from 7 o'clock to 5 o'clock are a marker, as are RA of Gratia touching
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