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Got A Damaged Coin But Would Like To Know The Cause

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 Posted 08/29/2009  4:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gibbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello! This is my first post here. I've had an amateurish interest in coin collecting since I was just a kid. I recently got a coin on ebay which has some damage. But I cannot figure out what caused it. Have a look here:

Got-A-Damaged-Coin-But-Would-Like-To-Know-The-Cause

Could this be the result of a terribly botched jewelers' work? The line of gold covering the date appears above it.. Ie it is not a gouge it is a fill.
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 Posted 08/29/2009  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, to CCF. Since you say it's a fill and not a gouge maybe it's a repaired coin that was once a piece of jewelry, maybe a pin was soldered onto it?
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 Posted 08/29/2009  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gibbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the welcome John1 :)

I read about something called a defective die which might produce something like this. Has anyone here encountered a coin pressed with a die that had a crack in it?
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 Posted 08/29/2009  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope that was not a die crack. A crack would be raised and the original design would not be that obliterated. It was made into a piece of jewelry and was later removed. Now it is just bullion.
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Thanks Archraz!
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Hi Gibbie welcome to the forum .

its possible that the coin is a struck thru something , although with the third die being intact its unlikely , more probably post mint damage , making the coin what has already been suggested , bullion .

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 Posted 08/31/2009  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gibbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this sort of damage to this issue of coin is very common it seems. have a look here:
http://www.seizedacquisitions.com/l...um=935972589

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...230371010163

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...130327330888

Why are people defacing coins like this?

[edit.. this is how they are supposed to look!]
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08/31/2009 5:10 pm
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hmm now I feel dumber.. cause this is the way they are supposed to look evidently.. but it looks like someone blobed gold solder all over the top of the coin.
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this is what I mean in case you are all scratching your heads...

Got-A-Damaged-Coin-But-Would-Like-To-Know-The-Cause
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08/31/2009 5:24 pm
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The red arrows on the coin above are pointing to part of the headdress, that is a normal part of the design. The quarter and half eagle Indian Head designs were radically different from other US coins because they were incuse instead of in relief so the fields of the coin are the highest parts while the design is in the lowest areas. As for your original coin, It more than likely had a pin back soldered to it so the eagle side could be displayed and worn.
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Welcome to CC!

Hey, at least it's still GOLD. :)
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the part you are pointing out isn't damage its the original design, every 2.50 and 5.00 indian will have that same design because thats how it is supposed to look. I agree with the pin being soldered to the Obverse and wore as a pin causing the damage on your coin but what you pointed out on the other one isn't damage
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