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New Member
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I picked this up from a relatively new ebay seller 100% positive so far. It's 26mm, has good relief, no signs of electroplate that I can see. Haven't been able to get a weight yet. It has some patina in the detail areas and some marks on the back that look like an overzealous cleaning job. I looked in rg.ancients.info's great forgeries page and it is of the same type as one modern reproduction called "Rosa cast replica of an Alexander III tetradrachm, 10.5g" But there are some differences on both sides from that coin (not to mention that is an EP). Here are the photos.    |
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Moderator
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You mean this page?I agree, it's a close match for that coin. Too close, in my opinion. It's either a Rosa copy, or a copy of one of those Rosa copies. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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New Member
 United States
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Was the Rosa copy a copy of a real coin? I'm intrigued because A) the Rosa is supposedly electroplate, B) there are differences 1) behind Hercules' ear 2) the position of Zues' throne relative to the bottom edge.
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New Member
United States
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I'll be on vacation about a week but look forward to reading any discussion, meanwhile, I'll try to get an accurate weight for the coin.
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Moderator
Australia
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I'm not seeing the differences you cite. I am, however, seeing too many similarities: - the shape of the AP monogram - the near-invisibility of the monogram between the throne's legs - the way Zeus' staff disappears just below the arm that's supposed to be holding it Rosa made copies of genuine coins, as opposed to Slavey and his fellow "Bulgarians", who hand-carve entirely new designs. Sorry, but given the evidence, and the source (a "relatively new ebay seller") I'd be very, very skeptical. Is your ebay seller named on the FORVM fake sellers list? Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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It looks like it is either a Rosa copy or even a cast of a Rosa copy. There are several fakers out there who took the Rosa replicas and made cats of them in silver for sale through ebay. Regards, Martin |
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New Member
United States
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Sadly, I have seen this same coin for sale multiple times on e-bay, each coin a modern fake. I am 100% positive this coin is one of those, I would suggest you try to get your money back as soon as possible.
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New Member
United States
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Thanks for the info, I didn't realize there was a silver cast of that one.
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New Member
United States
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Is there also a list of the top ebay sellers who are known to be honest? |
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New Member
United States
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It's that bad, huh?
For instance I recently bought a coin from lucernae who I see is not on the bad list. Should I worry about this one?
Edited by tha-fahs-kseilo
09/12/2009 9:33 pm
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I personally don't buy ancients on ebay; I'm fortunate that a couple of nearby brick-and-mortar coin dealers stock them, so I don't have to rely solely on Internet purchases, but when I do buy ancients online I stick to off-eBay well established dealers. FORVM's "bad seller list" is only for sellers that knowingly and repeatedly sell fakes. Non-experts that can't tell the difference between genuine and fake, and bulk sellers that occasionally let a fake slip through their scrutiny, aren't included. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm glad my instincts on this one said "fake". The ancients I've seen (wish I still had enough money to own them) with this great of detail had much smoother silver. The pitting is wrong. And I don't see how you can get striations on the reverse so close to the image. In addition, this is essentially a perfect strike and these are rather uncommon.
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Posted 09/01/2009 3:27 pm
