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Canadian 1 Cent Verities Info Needed.

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 Posted 09/02/2009  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add oldgrandpainmi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I am wondering if someone can help me out here. I have posted this question on other sites.

I am wondering if there is an available list of cent verities available. I am not looking for mint errors or anything like that, just mint marks, composition, sm vs lg beads, etc, etc. It wasn't until a couple weeks ago I found out that there are 5 verities of the 2006 cent:

2006 (cu/zn)
2006 (cu/steel)
2006-L (cu/zn)
2006-L (cu/steel)
2006-P (cu/steel)

The last couple responses I got online was to go out and buy a certain Canadian Cent price guide. I have been to many book stores and countless libraries with no luck, (yes, the books are available online), but the books I did come across didn't even show the 5 different 2006 types. Therefore, I am a little hesitant buying any book online sight unseen.

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

OGPIM


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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsrfun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2006 cent has been beat up so to speak, here and elsewhere? What are you looking 4? Mintage numbers....etc?
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09/03/2009 12:01 am
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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I assume you mean Canadian Small Cents, which have been issued every year since 1920. Some years have seen varieties, as follows:

KING GEORGE V:
1936: Along with the regular cent issued that year, there is a variety where there is a very small dot below the date, somewhat dead center between the 9 and the 3.

KING GEORGE VI:
1937: There is apparently a variety with a matte finish.

1947: There are actually two different coins with the 1947 date -- ones that say 1947, and some that say 1947, but have a little maple leaf after the 7. These were actually minted in 1948. Dies from the year before were used because the independence of India necessitated that new dies had to be prepared because of the motto around the King's head identified him as Emperor of India, something he no longer was, and the Mint was caught by suprise by this.

The "real" '47's have a blunt 7 at the corner of the top bar of the number. As to the '47 Maple Leafs, there is not only specimens with this blunt 7 but also a variety with a pointed 7, where the corner of the top bar is sharper. Both are easy to find.

1948: There are three types of this year. The first has very faint denticles along the rim around the coin and the top of the A in "GRATIA" points to one of these marks. The remaining two have quite pronounced denticles; on one the top of the A likewise points to the top of the A in "GRATIA", on the other, it points between the denticles. The small denticle version is the hardest to find.

1949: No difference in denticles, all are pronounced, but the same "A pointing to" and "A pointing between" situation occurs. The "A pointing to" is the more expensive of the two.

QUEEN ELIZABETH II:
1. Young (Gillick) Effigy:
1953: Two different types, one with a strap visible on the Queen's shoulder, one without. To differentiate in the case where this may be worn down, look at the I in "DEI"; if the I is flared at the top and bottom and it points between the denticles, it is the one without the shoulder strap; if the I is straight sided all the way up and down and it points to a denticle, this is the variety with the shoulder strap.

1954: Same as 1953.

1955: Same as 1953 -- shoulder strap and non-shoulder strap, but in regard to those with the strap, there are two different: one with small faint denticles, and one with regular, easily seen denticles, for a total of three different for this year. The 1955 non-shoulder strap is rare, and was only released in mint sets.

2. Older (Machin) Effigy:
1965: There are FOUR different varieties this year, because there were two different obverse and two different reverses and there were combinations of these. On the Queen side, there are differences in the size of the beads around the edge. Small beads can be determined if the top of the A in "REGINA" points between two beads; on the Large bead type, the A points to a bead. On the Maple Leaf side there is a pointed 5, where the top right of the top bar of the numeral comes to a point, and a blunt 5 where the top right of the top bar of the numeral is nearly square.
Therefore, what you have is:
Small Bead, Pointed 5
Small Bead, Blunt 5
Large Bead, Blunt 5
Large Bead, Pointed 5 -- This is the rarest of the four.

1983: Two types, one with the beads near to the rim on the Queen side, one with the beads a little farther from the rim. Both types are easy to find.

1985: Blunt 5's and Pointed 5's; the latter is rarer.

3. Diademed Effigy:
1998: Two versions, one regular, one with a W mint mark to the right of the Queen's neck, but this was not released for circulation, available only in some mint sets.

1999: Two versions, one of which has a small P under the Queen's head. These are somewhat rare, being test pieces made of Plated Steel.

2000: Three versions, one with no letter on the Queen side, one with a W to the right of the Queen's neck, one with a P under the Queen. The W version is a mint mark, only released in sets, and the P version was again released only for testing purposes, and is extremely rare.

2001: Two versions, one without the P and one with. The P version came only in sets.

2002: Two versions, one without the P and one with. Both are easily found.

2003: Four versions, one without the P and one with; the version without the P is rarer, but can be found with some patience. There is also a P version that also has a W to the right of the Queen, but again, it came only in sets. In addition, the portrait of the Queen changed this year to the Uncrowned Effigy, and a smaller quantity of these were released, but it can be found in circulation.

4. Uncrowned Portrait
2006: You already know about these.


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Hopefully, this answers your question.

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 Posted 09/03/2009  06:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's excellent info..WpgLwr.
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 Posted 09/03/2009  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldgrandpainmi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will NEVER go to another coin forum again! I have received more USEFUL information in 10 hrs. than all of the other sites and forums combined! Thanks for all of the information from everyone. I have very few coin dealers in my area, and getting a decient coin album I can see and touch before purchasing is next to impossible. I have a Dan...(something) #8100 I got at a local flea market, and like it. But getting a Canadian Small Cent album that matches is impossible. I am getting a bunch of blank pages printed up like a manufactured album, and want all of the possible coin types before I print. With all of the information above, I think I have what I need.

Thanks again to everyone.

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 Posted 09/03/2009  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An album for Small Cents? Check here: http://www.colonialacres.com/sup05.shtml

I recommend all of the Uni-Safe supplies, both their albums and their folders. They are noted for their use of archival safe plastic.
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 Posted 09/04/2009  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kniceone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was at coin club on Tues nite and was given a copy of an article from the RCNA journal that was Dec.2008. I just found out there are 8 varieties of 2006 cents.
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 Posted 09/05/2009  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldgrandpainmi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
kniceone,
Can you pass on the three differences, other than the 5 I've posted earlier?
Is there any more varieties for 2007 to present? I only have 2 per year.
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 Posted 09/05/2009  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should be confused I just found out about the magnetic and non magnetic versions.The web link left by adanak44 is good for a list.
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 Posted 09/10/2009  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldgrandpainmi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr. C,
Any more info available from your last post?
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 Posted 01/08/2010  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Were the 2006p cents a circulation issue? I've seen them advertised for very high prices, but I haven't found one in circulation since I started looking.
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 Posted 01/08/2010  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PSI,

The story I heard is that most 2006P were made for sets and about 400 left over rolls were released into general circulation.
I have been lucky, I have found about 22 in circulation so far. I see one in about $100 pennies. Mintage is around 233,000 (Much lower by five-fold than key dates 1922, 23 and 25 and lower by two-fold than keydate 1859). Unfortunately, I have not found any 2006 No P magnetic yet.
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 Posted 01/08/2010  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got my hands on the list (all 8 varieties)
Here is the five varieties that everyone is aware of:

1) Zinc, No-P, circulation finish
2) Steel, No-P, circulation finish
3) Steel, P, circulation finish
4) Zinc, RCM, circulation finish
5) Steel, RCM, circulation finish

Here is the three additional varieties:
The differences are in the type of finishes.

6) Steel, RCM, uncirculated finish
7) Steel, P, specimen finish
8) Bronze,No-P, proof finish

Uncirculated ==> special consideration in mintage & handling.
Speciman ==> mirror device on lined field
Proof ==> Ultra heavy cameo device on a mirrored field
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 Posted 01/13/2010  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The 1955 non-shoulder strap is rare, and was only released in mint sets.


I think this latter claim may be false. I have a circulated one, and have the understanding that 1954 NSS was in sets only, but 1955 NSS went into circulation in small quantities.

Otherwise, thanks for the great info. I didn't know about the denticle varieties in 1955.
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