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$1.00 Silver Certificate Questions

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 Posted 09/24/2009  4:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dunderklumpen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I found an old(?) dollar in a book that I bought in a secondhand shop here in Sweden.
I only wonder how old it is and if itīs worth something? =P
I first thought that it was a fake or play money be cuss the size and the feel of it but I found the same type of dollars on google photos/pictures.

But there is some difference like the sigil/certificate is not blue and the "black" side is not as black as the google pics, more like green as the other side. Is it a fake?

I took 2 pictures of the dollar but they aren't so good (mobile camera):
$1.00-Silver-Certificate-Questions
$1.00-Silver-Certificate-Questions

You probably don't see it in the pics but itīs in "perfect" condition and has only been folded some times in the center (only one way to).
I can fix scans too if necessary.
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 Posted 09/24/2009  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Lucky you!

That's an old silver certificate and if it's real, it doesn't look to be in too bad a shape.

Someone else here can give you better details, but this is a keeper.
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 Posted 09/24/2009  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chump_Change to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an awesome find. Congrats and Welcome to the board. What I know about bank notes you could fit in a thimble. Let the experts help you. Great looking note.
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 Posted 09/24/2009  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Davest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, and to find it in a book. I'll give you $2.00 of new American money for it, if'n you're willin.

seriously, that's a great find, I'll give you 3.
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 Posted 09/24/2009  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks to be one in the same league as the one you found; check it out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1899-US-1-One-D...te_W0QQitemZ390075835085QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad254e2cd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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 Posted 09/25/2009  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum! If you don't receive any more pricing info today, I will look tonight when I get home to see what I can find for you. The ebay link is a Buy it now auction, so this may or may not reflect the going price for these. It's probably a good start though. You could also look at completed auctions on ebay and/or teletrade to see what some have sold for.

Regardless, I can look tonight for you to see what book pricing is. A great find for sure, congrats.
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 Posted 09/25/2009  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dunderklumpen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got better pics of the dollar, as you can see it doesn't have the same colors as the others? And the sigil/ the big "1" and serial nr are not blue? Can it be a fake or an older/newer version?
Also there is many lines over the note, but it must be from the press be cuss it's the same color as the rest? (High-res scans at the end of post).

$1.00-Silver-Certificate-Questions
$1.00-Silver-Certificate-Questions

Chump_ChangE: Thx

Davest: haha, I bought the book for 1KR = 0.14~USD =P

WpgLwr: hum, maybe, but that one has been folded more times and have many small cracks, but close yes.

tights24 If you have time to look and help me I appreciate that, Iīm not so good at this :)
I uploaded high-res scans, photos and a video where I flip it to show the folded parts (only one in the center, one way) rared 19mb:

http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/DSC00492 **(No Zip Files Allowed)**
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 Posted 09/25/2009  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't quite make it out, even with your bigger scans, but you state that the seal, 1 and serials are not blue. If they're not blue, what color are they?

Don't discount the possibility that the formerly blue ink may have reacted with the paper in the book it was found in, and changed color to an extent.
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 Posted 09/25/2009  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I clicked on your link, but I get nothing.

Anyway, what you seem to have here is an 1899 Silver Certificate. Yes, it's meant to be that large; such large notes are known as "horseblankets" because of their size.
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United States
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 Posted 09/25/2009  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dunderklumpen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WpgLwr: They are the same colors as the rest owe the note, did a pic to show (my is on the top):

$1.00-Silver-Certificate-Questions

Maybe the book did something to the note, but the book is very old and there is a big chance that the note has been there the longest time, but there is no colors after it on the pages :/
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09/25/2009 11:00 am
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 Posted 09/25/2009  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check the engraving of the note. Laser printer would be flat. Engraved would be raised ink, plus there would be more detail in the engraving.

I have my doubts... the wrinkles has the same color as the note. Some details and serial numbers are not solid (looks pixel-ly). The detail in the eagle is lacking as with the Capitol background and stars are missing on the US flag. The biggest sign is the missing blue and red fibers (there should be a column of them on the right of the "blue" 1 and underneath the "blue" seal.
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 Posted 09/28/2009  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ScarecrowGifts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with hc8604. I have one of these (1899) and it has the blue markings. Also the shading of the 1 on mine is made up of all horizontal lines and yours looks more diagonal and random.
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 Posted 10/01/2009  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SammyBlade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd give you 50 bucks for the note

<<Although this post probably just an opinion on the value of the note, please remember the forum rules regarding Buy/Sell/Trade.>>
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 Posted 10/06/2009  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dunderklumpen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hc8604: Yes, the note is wary "pixel-like", itīs even hard to read the text.
Is there any way to see if it's real, you talk about raised ink, how would I see that?
Did the notes have watermarks or something I can see with a lamp?

ScarecrowGifts: On one side there are horizontal and diagonal lines (if you look at dollar2.bmp). But they arenīt really random? You can easily se the pattern of squares =P

SammyBlade: Why would you buy something that isnīt guaranteed to be real? =P
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 Posted 10/07/2009  12:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ScarecrowGifts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you mean about the diagonal lines. What is the year marked vertically on the right side?
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