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 Posted 10/27/2009  02:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Educating post.
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 Posted 10/27/2009  03:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're right livingdinasaur you'll never find a 1936 dot penny.
there are only 3 known to exist.(All in mint state,despite the SUPPOSEDLY official mintage of almost 700,000 BUT as mentioned
in another thread(I think)Keep an eye out for a 1969 Large date Canadian dime.I have a dealer's book that says most dealers will pay a MINIMUM of $7,000.00 Cdn. I know for sure I could sell one for $20,000.00 in V/F (WISH I DID HAVE ONE)The mintage for 1969 was 55,833,929.No one knows how many of these are the large date.
Charlton says."As of Januay 2008,only 16 examples of the rare large date variety have been certified" But a year before that there was only 14 (Another 2 popped out of nowhere)The question is how many are out there-not certified-in circulation-in collectors hands-etc.Be aware you never know.Maybe you'll be next to find one!!
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 Posted 10/28/2009  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
collectall, If one had a picture of the large date, and one of the "small" date, to compare, maybe a few more could turn up. OR, maybe the ones that have turned up, all belong to the same person, and that person, for whatever reason needs a little extra money, and "turns one loose". No, I don't think so. As Mr Spock said, It is not logical. However, if the two could be compared, side by side, it would be much easier. My memory is not that refined, so as to compare the two, with one missing.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there are more out there for two reasons collectall - the first being they aren't silver so those plucking silver coins out would pass them over, and the second being that unless you know what a LD looks like (I suspect most non-collectors don't), it wouldn't catch your eye. To this day people still find 1955 NSF coins, 1953 5c mules, and various other tougher varieties in change. Somewhere, there is a 1969 LD sitting in a change jar, owned by somebody who has no idea that it's there, or what it's worth.

Since I have terrible luck finding varieties in change, deals on ebay, and unattributed coins anywhere coins are sold, I figure I'm saving up my luck for a '69 LD.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope your luck comes true for you 1cent that would be an excellent coin to find, I've herd rumors that they where only found in BC? I use a 1968 nickle 10 cent coin to compare the dates with the numbers would be the same size. 1969 was the change over year for the small date I have never found or even seen one yet I'll keep looking though with a positive attitude. I'm sure there will be more found I'm not sure how many have been found to date, but you wouldn't think that there would only be a handful minted good luck looking everyone.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dick, here is the 1969 dime large and small date for comparson taken from the Charlton book....



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 Posted 10/28/2009  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is a pic of a 1936 Dot quarter.
You can see the dot just below the bow.

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 Posted 10/28/2009  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I keep looking for the 1969 LD, because you never know...
Another good way to tell--look at a 1968 10c; it has the same digit style.
The common 1969 date is noticeably smaller too....you can spot the difference from arm's length.
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 Posted 10/28/2009  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info from the book, and it just occured to me. Is the 10 cent LD/sd on business strikes, or PL? I have a lot of PL, and maybe some business strikes. I haven't looked, in fact, I didn't know there was any difference until it was brought to my attention, here on the forum. I don't collect the ten-cent coins in particular, ( for the same reason I disregard the US dime; they are too darn small to handle, with my big hands)! Also, if they have "been rumored " to only have been found in BC, that would indicate a similsr distribution od the "variety, like happened with the "highleaf, low leaf Wiasconson quarter. They nearly all went to Tucson, AZ.
fioti, I agree, it is a most educating thread. The more active it is, the more we learn, about the things that are meaningful to us. Enjoy!@ I do!
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d23, after posting, and having seen youir image of the dimes, I went looking, after having put the images on "Zoom-Text". the difference stands out "like a sore thumb"! The "1" on the small date is notably smaller. Makes for a nice "PUP", or "pick up point". I have some '69's, but my question stands, Is it only in business, or also in PL coinage? I have mostly PL. Thanks, again! Later, after having read the thread again, I notice I almot repeated what DVCollector said!
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Dick,
The few examples of the 69 LD I have seen show a lot of circulation wear, and no remainder of PL surfaces. I think they are business strikes--any confirmation on that?
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 Posted 10/28/2009  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes only business strike coins
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Business strike only is correct as the 1969 Large Date design is a rare variety. There was only a small quanity struck early in the year before they noticed that the original design was extremely deteriorated and could no longer be used. The new design with the smaller date and schooner replaced the original design in early 1969 making the low quanity of large dates rare. To the best of my knowledge only around 15 large date varieties have surfaced.

I love to find #16......
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 Posted 10/28/2009  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So far this post has had much valuable info but have we decided that the dot is or is not part of the maple leaf or just some anomaly ?
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 Posted 10/29/2009  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dot is a definite part of the die, at the time it was used. The dot, and the "half maple leaf" both have their reasons for being on the die. I can't quote Canadian History, but it is there. It has been very noteworthy, that any change on the die, has been done with a definite purpose in mind, even if it is only a small change in any part of the design.
If you will look for, or if you have the Charlton's Coin Catalogue, you will find each one, and to what it refers. This, or any reference to coins, is almost as important, as the small loupe for viewing the coins for any variety. happy hunting!
Dick
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