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 Posted 09/24/2009  11:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What is the story on the 47 dot coins. There are too many coins with the same date with a dot in the same place to be a coincidence so what was going on. What story have you heard?
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 Posted 09/25/2009  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure it's a dot and not a maple leaf?
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 Posted 10/17/2009  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 47 dot appears on the 5 - 25 - $1 in almost the same place. I have just always found it very strange that the same error appears on 3 different denominations.
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 Posted 10/17/2009  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmmm, who says that it is an error?
there might be a well guarded reason behind all the DOT stuff.....
who knows?/
HOWEVER... very interesting question and topic...
would sure also like to know.
fact is, dots are there...., well placed...purposely placed..
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 Posted 10/18/2009  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes the dots are there. Could it be the same story as why the maple leaf is there or the dot on the 1936 penny



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 Posted 10/18/2009  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have some information here from the Charest variety guide.

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 Posted 10/18/2009  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not seen that "half maple leaf" variety before--that's cool!
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Interesting info malissadawn, thanks for posting that. What denomination does that apply to, or is it more
than one? I also wonder if it's specific to business strikes, or if the specimens also had ML varieties?
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 Posted 10/18/2009  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It only mentions the 5 cent with 1/2 maple leaf
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 Posted 10/25/2009  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey thanks for the info, it makes sense that it is related to the leaf. It would be interesting to compare position of the dot relative to its position in each denomination.
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 Posted 10/26/2009  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never heaard of the "half maple leaf", at leasrt on the cents. It might be present on other denominations, but my question is: Is it designed that way, ot is it a "partially filled die"?
Was this change in the dies brought on by the "changingh of the Momnarch, or was it the chanfe where thr "IMP was removed, due to the gaining of their independance of India? I know one of the tweo was important in this chamnge, and the change came at an un-scheduled time. The dies for the next year had been ordered, and then the change made to represent the changes in the coinage. Or something to that effect. The "timing" was off for the event.
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 Posted 10/26/2009  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I know what you are asking livingdinasar so here goes:
In 1948 there was a great need for coinage and the new dies weren't ready yet so a maple leaf was added to the old dies 1947 to show these coins were minted in 1948.Finally when the new dies did show up,it was so late in the year that coins minted with 1948 dates were very low mintage for ALL denominations.And yes when India became an independent nation it did create a problem in minting "et ind: imp"
had to be removed.Does this help in any way or even make sense??
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 Posted 10/26/2009  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as the 1947 dot goes,there are only 2 denominations with it.
The 1947 dot nickel and the 1947 dot quarter(with the dot being a little bit higher on the quarter.To visualize this you need to really see the coins.
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 Posted 10/26/2009  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I forgot.Some collectors have or claim to have seen other denominations with the dot(1947)This may well be true,but it would be a mint error caused by the die.(Pitted die maybe,I don't know)
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 Posted 10/26/2009  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collectall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry again.You're right Mr.Canada The 1947 silver dollar can have a dot also,but the dot is in a lower position than the nickel OR the quarter.If it will help I will try to post pictures later on.Right now it's bed-time. GOOD NIGHT ALL!
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 Posted 10/26/2009  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
collectall, yes, it does. I had read of the reasons for the "dot", and had it confused with other events that had reason for minor, (temporary" changes to the coionage. I have not collected Canada very long, and whikle I have some knowledge of the history, It is mostly fropm the references which I have purchased, for the reseasrching of the coinage. I started with the cents, and naturally it spread out to other denominations, all circulated, and in no particular odrder. but as you know, it just doesn't stay in it's own back yard! so I have tried to contact the RCM to subscribe to "proof, and Mint sets", aas I do here in CA. It didn't work, so I am working with folks who have access to the PL, and other sets. little by little, ther are coming together. My firsdt "set", was the small cent, and it was a chore, finding the early ones, however it came to be. I have at least one full set, minus the '36 dot", but I consider that an impossibility, in this lifetime. I will be a "young" 84, this coming Saturday. I, along with millions of other "kids" will celebrate my birthday. I use the CCNeew puiblication to serve as an inventory sheet. I am also working back, into the large cents, but they are competing with the FE, and IHC cents. Always room for more!
Dick
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