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USA Today: Coins Cost More To Make Than Face Value

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WASHINGTON — The next time someone offers you a penny for your thoughts, you might want to take them up on it.
For the first time in U.S. history, the cost of manufacturing both a penny and a nickel is more than the 1-cent and 5-cent values of the coins themselves. Skyrocketing metals prices are behind the increase, the U.S. Mint said in a letter to members of Congress last week.

The Mint estimates it will cost 1.23 cents per penny and 5.73 cents per nickel this fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30. The cost of producing a penny has risen 27% in the last year, while nickel manufacturing costs have risen 19%.

The estimates take into account rising metals prices as well as processing, labor and transportation costs. Based on current metals prices, the value of the metal in a nickel alone is a little more than 5 cents. The metal in a penny, however, is still worth less than a penny.

"Higher zinc, copper and nickel prices are raising the production costs of the nation's coinage," the Mint said in the letter, which it provided to USA TODAY Tuesday.

Metals prices have been soaring this year as a strong economy worldwide has led to an increase in demand. The prices of metals used in coins are all rising: Zinc is up 76% this year, copper is up 68%, and nickel is up 42%, according to the London Metal Exchange.

But consumers should not hoard coins or melt down the change in their kids' piggy banks, says Michael Helmar, an economist and metals analyst at Moody's Economy.com. He says the process of melting the coins, separating out the metals, then selling would be costly and time-consuming.

"If they were made out of gold, sure," he says. But "there are just too many other costs."

The Mint is one of the few government agencies that makes a profit.

The Federal Reserve, which distributes money to banks, pays face value for coins. If a coin costs less to manufacture than the face value, the Mint makes a profit.

Last year, the Mint's coin-making profit was $730 million. Mint officials estimate the added penny and nickel expenses will reduce the Mint's profit this year by $45 million.

Coin compositions, which are set by Congress, have been changed in the past because of rising costs. The penny has been altered several times since it was first changed from pure copper in 1837 to add other metals.

But Rep. Joe Knollenberg, R-Mich., one of the letter's recipients, says Congress is unlikely to consider changes, given that the Mint is still making money on other coins.

"We'll wait this one out," he says.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-...y-usat_x.htm
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We have Seen Australia New Zeland and many other countries do away with small denomation coins and in some cases banknotes.

Has there been any talk of taking the one and five cent coins out of circulation?

The SBA & Sac dollars did not work to replace paper notes.
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Unfortunatly, In the not to distant furture I see the U.S. doing away with all currency in favor of a credit/debit type system.
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TLS5933 You can probably forget that ever happening. While the banks would love to see it you would be killing a huge CASH COW for the U.S. government! Also everyone is NOT real fond of the paper and card industry which is currently sinking the U.S. economy under debt. There is not a bigger rip off in the world than credit card rates, the oil industry and the banking industry and the world would be much better off without all three! While they may not be going anywhere in the immediate future more and more Americans (and other world citizens) are recognizing them for what they are.
We will end up with new cheap metal coins in the very near future to keep the money flowing so to speak! Guess that will be something else for us to collect!!!
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TLS5933 You can probably forget that ever happening. While the banks would love to see it you would be killing a huge CASH COW for the U.S. government! Also everyone is NOT real fond of the paper and card industry which is currently sinking the U.S. economy under debt. There is not a bigger rip off in the world than credit card rates, the oil industry and the banking industry and the world would be much better off without all three! While they may not be going anywhere in the immediate future more and more Americans (and other world citizens) are recognizing them for what they are.
We will end up with new cheap metal coins in the very near future to keep the money flowing so to speak! Guess that will be something else for us to collect!!!


I hope your right. If they did use a debit type system there would be no fee or charge to the user. So I don't think that would be an issue. But seeing whats new now is amazing. Key chains that work as debit/credit cards that you just flash over a eye at the retailers. Drive through fast food places have credit/debit slots at the order screen now.Sure seems like there moving in that direction.
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Maybe it would be cheaper for the mint to produce coins of the same composition as canadian coins.
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