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 Posted 10/13/2009  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"if it was THAT easy, everyone would do it and nobody would ever lose their shirt"

Yep !

I have to reiterate once again, the only way to "invest" in gold, is to buy paper stocks. And yes, buy at the lows and sell at the highs. Be warned very few beat Wall Street. Unless you are some large gold investor, it's very hard to buy and sell gold for any type of profit. Those who are doing well are the "we buy gold jewelry" people and hide the spot price in the purchase.
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 Posted 10/13/2009  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot something important !!

Wall Street tends to play a game called, pump and dump. They will spend millions buying stock inflating it value and creating a media frenzy. When it hits a desired price, they dump (shorting) causing new lows and making them a ton of money.
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 Posted 10/29/2009  02:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I know is that I bought a certified gold coin in 2007/2008 for $940, and according to numismedia.com it's now worth $2,090 (uncertified). It definitely has increased in value on numismedia.com.
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 Posted 10/30/2009  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew289 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice story but irrelevant to your initial question.

Depending on what you purchased, most likely pre 1933 gold. There is inherent numismatic value. My saint collection are also worth more now than 10 years ago.

When people post about buying gold for investments purposes and the choice between coins and bars, the coins they refer to are bullion coins not numismatic coins. That's comparing apples and oranges.

Coins like Kruggerands, maple leafs and American eagles are "investment coins". To buy gold as an investment (i.e. as close to spot at possible) bars will give you a better per dollar value.
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 Posted 11/01/2009  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, I have a $50 2006 W UCAM NGC American Gold Eagle PF70.
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 Posted 05/23/2011  03:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have to reiterate once again, the only way to "invest" in gold, is to buy paper stocks.


If you want gold as a hedge against gubmint financial mismangement, why would you buy something they can control?
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 Posted 05/23/2011  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And if Lincoln-collector needed to collect on his investment, he could list his $50 2006 W UCAM NGC American Gold Eagle PF70 at say either zero or way below selling price to save wasted time, like say $1000 starting bid on ebay, and I bet it will produce near its true value. Too many knowledgeable collectors follow the auctions like Hawk's, for lack of a better word , and they are not gonna let me have or you or anyone have a 2000 dollar coin for $1000....

Now stick a Buy it Now for $2100 it may set a while, but if one needed the money asap, I think the above example or many other possibilities many of you use, like Craigslist or this forum, or whatever will help you turn your investment back into dollars in necessary....
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If you want gold as a hedge against gubmint financial mismangement, why would you buy something they can control?

Therein lies the crux of the matter. Why indeed? Perhaps because there is a difference between government mismanagement and government theft. It is quite possible to have one without the other... or even both at the same time!

I am thinking that we will continue to see government financial incompetence for some time to come now. Whether or not that results in confiscation of privately held PM investments, whether paper or physical, is a guess at best.

Fortunately, this is not an either / or choice. It is quite possible and perhaps even beneficial as well, to have both physical and paper PM investments. I do. Whether or not that will work out satisfactorily in the end... who knows? But there are advantages to this approach that can't be had via only choosing one of them.
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 Posted 05/25/2011  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ICanSeeYou7687 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would definately agree with coin the coin round. While having a bar is coo ( I don't have one yet but I definately wanna get one at some point), you just cant beat having a coin with some history.

I pick up some 1/10 oz gold eagles when I find a good deal on them....but iim a sucker for those gauden double eagles.... don't have one yet... I will probably trade in my smaller pieces for one when I build up an ounce or so.
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