Another Chinese Alteration To Avoid

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swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 10/12/2009 4:38 pm Once again, the Chinese engravers have taken a a common bullion 8R (ca 1880) and turned it into a RARE date. But in this case - the design is totally wrong. The 1824 Durango 8Rs were actually Hookneck types and don't look anything like the late Republican issues. Here is the auction, which has two bids already.: http://cgi.ebay.com/1824-MEXICO-8R-...RE_W0QQitemZ 300356591805 Report this Post to the Staff

Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 10/12/2009 6:06 pm your advice vindicates the view one ought to know what one is buying before parting with one's money: "buy the book before the coin" Peter in Oz Report this Post to the Staff
jfransch Pillar of the Community United States 1801 Posts	Posted 10/13/2009 12:06 am ebay has allowed itself to be ruined as a marketplace for serious coin collectors by not allowing the collector community to police itself and allowing the chinese fakes to flood the market. Before the hidden bidder concept, these bidders would have received multiple emails from the collector community warning them to be careful. Now they are like sheep being led to slaughter and ebay couldn't care less as long as they get their fees. Report this Post to the Staff
Nic Pillar of the Community Philippines 1156 Posts	Posted 10/13/2009 12:19 am yes, the buyer will only realize this after a couple of years in blissful ignorance. The coin is well made for eye-appeal, the give-away is that the worn-out rim edges is not planar to the embossed central part, that is suspicious by itself Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 10/13/2009 07:53 am There is a common cast copy of an 1824 Durango 8R that is an accurate representation of what a typical Hookneck looks like. There is one on ebay right now which is correctly attributed. Here is my copy of the entry to show HOW DIFFERENT the 1824 really looks. Anyone bidding on the Chinese alteration has obviously never seen an original. Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 10/13/2009 07:59 am Nic If you are refering to the flattened rim at the right side of the coin - I believe you are correct. That in my opinion looks like the rim was crushed when the coin was held in a vice while being re-engraved. It may have been an irregular planchet but it would be a convenient (if crude) way to hold the coin steady while working on it. Report this Post to the Staff
Nic Pillar of the Community Philippines 1156 Posts	Posted 10/14/2009 02:33 am yes, thanks swamperbob for the comment, yes, that would be it, because these fake coins abound, today I bring along two things to a coin exhibit, an 8x magnifying lens and a jewelers monocle 12x eyeglass. aside from spotting fakes, they also help to bring the coin price a little bit lower Report this Post to the Staff
tenacious Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 10/15/2009 08:19 am Quote: Ebay has allowed itself to be ruined as a marketplace for serious coin collectors by not allowing the collector community to police itself and allowing the chinese fakes to flood the market. Before the hidden bidder concept, these bidders would have received multiple emails from the collector community warning them to be careful. Now they are like sheep being led to slaughter and ebay couldn't care less as long as they get their fees. Well said jfransch. ebay is completely out of touch with what's going with coins on their site. Or more probably, and the conclusion that I've come to, is that they just don't care. And thanks swamperbob for the always helpful information! Report this Post to the Staff
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