Canadian 5 Cents 1910 And 1909 Matt ?

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hhbkiddo Pillar of the Community Canada 1248 Posts	Posted 10/14/2009 11:29 pm hello, just purchased these coins and am not sure what to think. the 1910 is MATT on both sides in the fields, everything else is raised and shiny, similar like a cameo proof coin.... the 1909 is the same, but ONLY on the reverse....the obverse looks like a very normal strike... beats me... Can anyone conclusively explain? thanks for your input HHB Edited by hhbkiddo 10/15/2009 9:34 pm Report this Post to the Staff

coinsrfun Pillar of the Community Canada 693 Posts	Posted 10/19/2009 6:35 pm Hi HHB. Nice detail on both coins. However........IMO, both have been cleaned. The 1909 appears to have been dipped. The 1910 looks like Hi point polishing. Tuff, you have the coins in hand......What do you think? :-) Report this Post to the Staff
hhbkiddo Pillar of the Community Canada 1248 Posts	Posted 10/19/2009 10:30 pm If these coins have been cleaned, someone must have spent hours and hours of very detailed cleaning, with very fine cleaning tools on them. the 1910 is nearly perfect. Absolutely NO cleaning here. For sure.!! the 1910 is just the most unusual coin I have seen in that series. will try and scan at 3600 dpi and also take more high res pictures, like in raw format. Report this Post to the Staff
malibu Valued Member Canada 304 Posts	Posted 10/22/2009 11:28 am see below my ICCS MS-64 1902 in the ED VII series with the same "matt" surfaces. My guess is the planchets were not polished and for 1909-1910 the Ottawa mint either made them the same way or imported unpolished planchets from the UK. ANY cleaning would ruin the matt finish and result in an easy to identify, more reflective surface. Report this Post to the Staff
coinsnpaper Valued Member Canada 480 Posts	Posted 10/25/2009 03:14 am May I suggest- these coins are normal circulation issues. The "matte" surface would be from the first strikings of a new die, the polished strike is from a die that has been used. One coin is made using both new dies, while the other one combines a new die with a used die. Dies wear at different rates. There are usually more of one die used than the other die-I just can't remember which one is usually more. Report this Post to the Staff
hhbkiddo Pillar of the Community Canada 1248 Posts	Posted 10/25/2009 10:09 pm ok, this could be the answer... BUT WHY does the coin look like 100% proof? you have a very good suggestion.... if so, there should be a few more out there....right? AND, perhaps these coins should get special designation... like they do in Europe. First strikes there command sometimes a 5-10 fold price. BUT, the whole theory does still NOT explain the 100% matt fields.... so, when a die is used, it would show some wear......right. fact is , everything on the 1910 is as sharp and clean as you would ever want it. WHY would it be matt? Report this Post to the Staff
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