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Teenage Find / Adult Unsure/ Rare Coin? (Id: 16th Century Hohstein Thaler)

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 Posted 11/05/2009  11:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrrepii to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a coin that I would really like to know about! Not sure what the writing on it means, but it is spelled. (Front)= has what looks like a man with a halo wearing a cross around his neck, and has an x across his body with the words = (CLETTENB DO IN LORA E )
On the rear it has a crest with the words= ( ERNESTVS COM D HONSTEIN ) Please help! any info would be greatly appreciated Edited my Moderator to remove email address
Teenage-Find-/-Adult--Unsure/-Rare-Coin?-Id:-16th-Century-Hohstein-Thaler

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 Posted 11/05/2009  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this is German Ernst V11 1580 - 1593

I am sure the experts will be able to give you alot more information.

Here is a link to an auction site that sold a coin like yours.

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...521&Lot=1078
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 Posted 11/05/2009  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find. That' St. Andrew. Considered "RARE"
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 Posted 11/06/2009  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does indeed appear to be a thaler from the German state of Hohstein, like the one in the CoinArchives link above (CoinArchives links expire after a few months, so I'm repeating the information it says there: Schulten 183a, Dav. 9318, 28.69g). Schulten and "Dav" (Davenport) are catalogue references. If genuine, it's certainly worth at least a few hundred dollars.

So, is it genuine? That depends; it's hard to be sure from those pictures. It's not normal to "find" 400 year old thalers just lying about the place. Can we ask the circumstances of how it was found?

A couple of quick tests can put our minds at ease. First, get a magnet and see if it sticks. If it does, its definitely fake. Next, check the weight. The one on CoinArchives weighed 28.69 grams; if yours is significantly lighter or heavier than that, it's definitely fake.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  05:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrrepii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did check with magnet , does not stick, but do not know what the weight is yet. I will post as soon as I can find out
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 Posted 11/06/2009  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrrepii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, forgot to tell you how it was found! Short version, I found it in my parents driveway in florida when I was about 13. (it was semi buried ) I'm 43 now. Only GOD knows how it got there. it also has an( 8 )and( Z )on the side of each foot, is that the date of the coin by chance?
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 Posted 11/06/2009  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears it may be an 8 & 5 for the year 1585. If you look at the picture in the link it also has that and the description reads the year is 1585.. Nice Coin..
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 Posted 11/06/2009  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If those symbols signify the date then it's more like 8 & 2 for 1582.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mrrepii- out of curiosity, about where in Florida did you find this coin? Because there of course were certain areas of settlement by the Spanish. So it is possible that you may have found a coin from a small hoard buried by a Spaniard or Catalan.
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 Posted 11/07/2009  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrrepii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had the coin weighed today. It weighs 28.34g. And the man there told me it really looks genuine, ( something about air bubbles in the metal, if that means anything to you guys! ) I found it in the East Ft.Myers area. I may go back there with my metal detector, it has been 30 years since I found it though. Maybe some others have washed up since then. ( you really got me thinking about it now though! )
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 Posted 11/13/2009  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrrepii to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
does anyone know of a safe way to clean this coin? or is it worth more as it is?
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 Posted 11/13/2009  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Worth more than it is

Never clean coins
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