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1924 D Lincoln Wheat

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So I've been very hesitant to buy a 1924 D cent because they are very hard for me to grade. The dies were so worn for most of those coins that I simply can't tell most of the time. So, on an impulse, I bought this one. Regardless of the actual grade, I still think it's a good looking coin. I included a few big pics for you to see. These pics were taken in direct sunlight, no flash or anything. So have at it!

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Here are some more of it out of the mount, cropped, but not reduced in size. Again, direct sunlight.

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I think it is a nice looking coin, too. I would say VF35. I think it just misses XF because of the wear on the top of the right wheat lines.
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This is why grading these 1924 D cents is so difficult for me. Why does PCGS think this one is an AU55?


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Your coin is at least EF45, maybe AU-50.

PCGS thinks the second coin is AU-55 because it is. They accounted for only wear and NOT die state...just like they should.
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I think it just misses XF because of the wear on the top of the right wheat lines.


That's not wear, that's due to die state.
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How do you know that the right wheat ear is die state instead of wear? Sometimes I mistake one for the other. Are there signs you look for that tells you it's die state instead of wear?
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Experience....and...look at UNUM, obviously the reverse die is in a late state. You can also tell by the wheat grains on the right, they are pretty good. On a coin that has wear on the wheatlines, the grains are worn down futher than what shows on this coin. You should also compare the left and right wheats. Normally they wear pretty evenly on both sides. On this coin the left wheat is sharp.
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I see now. The UNUM looks like it wasn't stamped very hard or not the way it should have been. Looking at the coin close up the relief for the wheat ear on the right isn't very much either. It looks less raised up than the wheat ear on the left. Big difference. It would be nearly impossible for the coin to wear like that in circulation. Thanks BadThad! I just need to practice, maybe also study some TPG coins from that era to see what they're doing.
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I stand corrected. Thanks for the education, BadThad. I've learned a lot since joining Coin Community.
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When it comes to Lincolns, BadThad is the man!
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Thats a real nice 24D!! I agree with XF. The right side on the reverse is pretty mushy, so I agree with thad about the wheatlines not being worn, just late die. This is the exact grade I need for a 24D. I doubt you want to get rid of it, but if so let me know :)
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Haha, nah, I don't really want to get rid of it seeing that I just bought it last week. It was actually an ebay purchase that I really took a gamble on. When I got the coin, I was very pleased. It's a very nice looking coin in person. Honestly, I'd rather have that 24D in the XF grade that's struck at least halfway decent than a super weakly struck one in AU/MS.
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