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Washington Quarter On Penny Planchet

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 Posted 05/18/2006  12:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all.

Has this error been known to exist?

I have a coin, that appears like it may be such.

It is very, very thin. If it is an authentic piece, what had happened was when the strike occured, it flattened out the planchet, making it very thin.

The thing the keeps me thinking this could be a good piece is the rim has the ridges like a quarter would.

My next step is once I get home to get out a scale and weigh it against a regular penny. If the weight is identical, then there is probably a good chance of it being real or atleast I would think).

So I guess what I am asking, is it possible for a penny planchet, when struck by a quarter die, to flatten out all the way to the edge of the die?
Just an FYI, 1973 is the date.

Thanks!
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 Posted 05/18/2006  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the answer is no. Not enough metal to fill the dies and the dies would never be set close enough to flatten the smaller planchet out that far.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO no it would not be possible,, with the amount of space to cover and the depth of the relief of the quarter and the difference in planchet thickness, I dont think there would be enough metal to cover the entire die.

If the coin is complete and the design detail is close to being all there, the edges are reeded from the third die, I would be thinking un plated planchet ?


How about a few pics Jordan !!

Rick
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 Posted 05/18/2006  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, sorry, no pics available. A guy a the coin club meeting tonight wanted it. I was told by a couple different people a trust completely that it was not a good piece (The buyer did not tell me that, I told the buyer). They were unsure as to how it was faked, but they were sure it did not leave the mint that way.
So... yeah. That's all.
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 Posted 05/18/2006  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
did you actually see the whole image of a quarter on it? I cant imagine it in my head. A picture would have been great
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 Posted 05/20/2006  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Only two possibilities if you had a thin, copper colored quarter that filled out the size of a quarter...and neither are a cent planchet. Cent planchets are way too small to fill in the void for a quarter in a coining press.

1. The coin had an acid bath to remove the clad layers. The design would be indistinct and blurry, as if eaten with acid. The coin could be very thin, in fact thin enough to bend with the fingers, and still show some design.

2. The coin was struck on quarter stock, but was missing both clad layers. The coin would be normal size but very thin compared to a normal quarter. Instead of weighing in at 5+ grams, it would weigh closer to 3.5 grams.

Without images it's not easily possible to tell which you had. The former would be worthless, and the latter would be worth $10-$50 depending on condition.
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 Posted 05/21/2006  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could have been bent with fingers, in fact it once was. The image was pretty blurry, you could see all the details and lettering, but not very well.
I would be leaning towards #1.
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