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I won a lot of 4 coins and this was one of the coins an 1886 obv1. What do you think it would grade?

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VF to VF20
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ICCS grrrrrr VF20
NGC EF 40

Centsles nearly uncirculated...... ( emphasis is on Nearly stretched like a rubber band)
ok shoot me... just can not stand them...
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after looking at it a little closer I noyiced that the 6 is double punched
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Here's a picture of the 6

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Papeldog, that is very interesting.
NOW, if we would ONLY HAVE someone who would recognize all these varieties we discover.
But, "the Powers" apparently are very seldom interested in such findings and just brush them aside......
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What I have heard is that there are 3 different reverse to the 1886 obverse 1 coins and this being one of them. I'm assuming that the regular one is 1 this is a second 1 and I don't know what the third one would be maybe someone else would know and fill us in?
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I don't know, but I find these type of cents very attractive and I am going to start collecting them.

Noooooooo! Somebody stop me!


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You will do well if you collect the better grades.., very well...
they are much scarcer than US coins of equal years.....
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There are at least 3 different major varieties of the '86 Obv 1a. There is a normal one, but even that has a R/P'd 1 in the date. Then there are 2 different nicely R/P'd 6's, one more flagrant (offset) than the other and they also have the R/P'd 1's. There also appears to me to be at least three additional spacing/vertical alignment varieties. One of my upcoming projects for the new year is to do some intricate study on the '86 Obv 1a's now that I have a sufficient number (more than 40)and because no one else has done one. I have enough Obv 2's (maybe 100 or so) to make it semi-reasonable as to populations.
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Thanks for the info oklacda, I'll be waiting and watching for your posts and picture's of your studies and new finds, keep up the great posts it keeps us all interested and gives use all more coins to look for in our hunts.
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I got this coin back from the grading company yesterday it come back a EF-40 not bad for a small investment.

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papledog, look for a die clash of the reverse leaves and vine in the obverse legond. There should be a leaf showing between GRATIA and REGINA
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I don't really see anything like a die clash, but there is a die crack at the right of the last A in Gratia from the rim to about 1/3 of the way down the A. I checked the other 3 obv 1's that I have none have the clash you talk about but they don't have the dp6 either.
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Yes; I do have one like you are describing not with the dp6 but an obv-1. It has the die clash right where you described it would be and it also has some bead clash between the inner row of beads and the Queens head.It also has clash in Canada.

1886I foregot about it, I had it in with my next batch of coins going off to be graded after the New Year. I'll try to post picture's

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papeldog,

It's like everything else on large cents. Once you know to look for something, you will start to see it. I always look for the clash on these. It is one of the few that has the leafs and vine clashed. I like the ragged look to the bottom of Canada it gives.


Based on some of the pics you have posted over the last couple of years, you have quite a cool collection of large cents!
Cheers,
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