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metal brass ,not gold
British-:-Coin-Or-Medal-????????
British-:-Coin-Or-Medal-????????
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Absolutely not a coin! It almost looks like a piece of satire in a token form. Instead of St. George killing the dragon they both appear to charge (?) toward Hanover. I believe it alludes to the fact that with accension of Victoria England officially lost all the privilegies (even though just formal) to Hanover which they had since Goerge Louis (George I, house of Hanover) became the king of England in 1714. Hanover's succession laws forbade a female to inherit the title.
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Yep, it seems to me I've heard that explanation before.

I got one of these too in a bulk coin assortment.

Value anyone?
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Correct. It's a card game counter. And svslav is correct, it's design is satirical in nature and "commemorates" the scission of the thrones of Britain and Hanover. As I mentioned in this thread where a similar piece was enquired about, the reverse depicts the Duke of Cumberland, who inherited the throne of Hanover in Victoria's place. On the genuine gold coins, St George slays the dragon. Here, the Duke leaps over the dragon in his haste to get away - he wasn't a particularly popular person in England.
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As for value, they'd have been sold by the packetful as play money, for at least as long as Victoria was alive - "1837" is most likely not the actual date is was struck.

This piece is worn, but intact, unlike uouo77's example in the above linked thread. I'd value it at a dollar or two.
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THANKS EVERYONE FOR ANSWER !
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they were or are commonly called "Cumberland Jacks", as a pun on the name of
Prince Ernest Augustus, Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale (1771-1851), who became King of Hanover in 1837.
see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Cumberland

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THANKS YOU SO MUCH ,PETER THOMAS !
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