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Need Help With Very High Mint Mark On OBW Roll 1958 D Cents

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 Posted 12/07/2009  11:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add susanh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought a Original Bankroll Wrapped roll of 1958 D Cents. These coins look as though they were minted yesterday. Most pristine roll I've ever opened. Strang thing is the mint mark on many of the coins and the reverse. The mint mark is very high..almost / or touching the 9 or 5 in many cases. And on the reverse the "O" in one is smashed in at the 11:00 position and E. PLURIS is almost ilegable in many cases when the mint mark is so high. But the rest of the devices look awesome. Also the "58" in 1958 looks slightly doubled to me in some cases, esp. the "8". Anyone ever seen this before?

Please look at pictures and the mint mark position. Many of the coins in this roll have the mint mark high like this. Also a few mint marks are horizontal a tad. I did call PCGS and they told me that would def. be a variety coin but he had never heard of it.

http://picasaweb.google.com/rh28732/20091205#

Compare to this 1958 D Sold on Teletrade.
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot.asp?
auction=2675&lot=1275&imagetype=j2

This is where the mint mark should be positioned.

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 Posted 12/07/2009  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before 1990, the mint mark was applied by hand to all Lincoln Cent dies so a variance in positioning is normal. If you find one actually touching the date, that is considerably less common and worth keeping.
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 Posted 12/08/2009  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I explained this on another forum. Also, PCGS is incorrect if they led you to think that the coin is a variety of any kind. The mint mark positions prior to 1990 on Lincoln cents can vary since the mint marks were punched into the dies by hand.

If the mint mark actually touches the date, these are slightly collectible. Otherwise, it was just a normal day at the Mint.

Thanks,
Bill
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In the 1950's the die were used till they literally "Died." It is no uncommon to see devices that are very weak from Grease Filled Dies called struck through errors. Dies that have deteriorated till they make hardly a hint of letters as the fields and the devices flow together. Thus the devices toward the rim show extreme wear in that direction. Dies that are abraded by over cleaning making them go the extra miles that was still in them. Even BU coins looks like a worn coin except for the brightness of the copper. So nothing really new found on BU coins from that era.
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I would add, that if you go to coppercoins.com, you can pull up that date, and MM, and check all the diofferent positions that the MM has been placed, on the coins listed there. You will also fid the markers to identify the particular cariety. happy hunting!
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