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Valued Member
United States
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Is it just me, or does this forum webapp perform really poorly under firefox? I'm using FF 1.5x at both work (Redhat) and home (Win XP) and when forum pages load, all of the articles are aligned right in a really thin column off the screen (You have to scroll to get to it), and when you click on a link, it realigns (properly) itself...
It's actually pretty ridiculous...
When I view source on the page, I see just about every "nono" in the webdeveloper's handbook (a concept) broken ... Open container declarations, inline styles, page inserted styles, improper script declarations, no <html> tag on the page, no doctype or charset declaration, and much much more ...
Now, not to knock whatever effort has gone into this page by the administrators... I dont need to sit here and dish out the well-deserved platitudes they deserve. Only a fool would criticize the forum for lack of anything utilitarian... This is a great resource and site.
But, it's a fact that its backbone, or web-interface is a real cluster-fork. Who are these snitz.com guys? I hope you don't pay them much if anything.
I'm a professional webdesigner by trade, and have a keen eye for UI development. If the forum administrators were ever thinking of migrating their platform to something more scalable, or browser independant, I'd be more than happy to help or steer.
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I'm using Firefox 1.0.7 (XP) and don't have a problem using this forum, or the Australian (ACT&B) forum, also snitz-based. I can't comment on the html code - my knowledge of Java is ziltch.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Mooseknuckle, Snitz is a forum software used in tens of thousands of sites throughout the world. Snitz is open source software and in its own development team, several members use Firefox and not IE. The Snitz site ( http://forum.snitz.com/forum) is visited daily by thousands of people, many of whom use Firefox, and we have no reports of any issues like yours at all. Also, Snitz is quite prior to Firefox. Throughout all the years that it has been made available for use, all major browsers were supported without any major issues. So, your words about Snitz show, at the very least, some ignorance, hard to understand in a professional web designer by trade. I am the lead support person at Snitz. If you need any info on the Snitz code, I'll be able to provide it. |
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United States
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I also am on both forums using Firefox- often have both open under different tabs
Have not had any probles at all
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Valued Member
 United States
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:) Sorry, if I seemed kinda agressive last night when I made that post... Was slightly innebriated. However, I still have these problems with FF On both linux, and windows... I just launched XP at work under VMARE, and downloaded and installed the latest version of Firefox on that machine, and indeed see the same glitches... Basically on a first visit to the forum home, All of the tables in the center are smushed up against the right, off the screen. If you simply 'refresh', the tables fall to the center, but still slightly overjustified ot the right. Clicking of a forum name doesn't load the forum, but aligns the tables again for a 3rd and final time. At this point, clicking on a forum name will take you where you want to go. I took a brief look at the page, and dont see any weird event listeners loaded by any of the native snitz stuff for the hrefs, so my guess is that it's a combination of google-urchin stuff with something else on the page. quote:
So, your words about Snitz show, at the very least, some ignorance, hard to understand in a professional web designer by trade.
Look, I dont want to get into a Language edit match with you about this, but I haven't lauched a direct knowing personal attack on you, so please don't judge me. I just asked around my department here, and no one has heard of Snitz. Maybe all of my companies web-development professionals are unprofessional, but it's not likely. Had I known that the lead support of the forums software was reading this page, I would have surely reworded what I said. From designer to possible designer to designer, you and I should both agree that the html/css/javascript behind this site could use some rewhacking. Edited by Metalman
05/24/2006 12:45 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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So, when I got to thinking about what could have possibly made all my instances of FF not work, I looked for a common denominator, and indeed, it was adblock which was causing the HTML to be rendered wrong. Most sites usually gracefully handle the layout of their addframes tough, I've never seen anything quite like this... here are some screen-shots of the layout when adblock is enabled:   |
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Most Valued Member
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Mooseknucle,
So, it was not Snitz after all :). Our current version has some time, I agree with you. Ours is a no-frills forum code, that a lot of people use both because it's easy to install, easy to customize, and I think we also have a very supportive community, which helps with that customization. The looks may be a bit "classic", but it's rather easy to customize. At our support forums you can also see many examples of various forum looks.
This very forum is an example of that. Bobby has worked hard and changed the forum quite a bit.
Ok, I was a bit agressive too, I apologize about that. Didn't mean to say you were a bad professional, just that it's easy to find a bit about Snitz (6,200,000 hits on a simple google search :).
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United States
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While I'm in front of the proper audience, is it reasonable to expect the page size to increase when an oversize pic is posted, even if the pic shows as a thumbnail? Mooseknuckle's screenshots above do that to me; I see them as thumbnails but the page is sized, and the text justified, as if his full-size shots were inline.
I'm running Firefox 1.0.7 on XP with *no* adblocker or plugins.
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Most Valued Member
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I can't be totally sure but there is a mod that automatically resizes oversized images, and the mod uses Javascript. It's Javascript that should work with Firefix too, so I don't see why that should happen.
Can you post a screen capture?
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United States
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I don't seem to have any problem with Javascript on this box, and I haven't seen this problem anywhere but this forum. Having said that, I don't think I've been on another forum which uses the auto-resize feature. Edit: The extra area is vertical as well as horizontal, to the size of the expanded image. That isn't shown in my screencap.  Edited by SsuperDdave
05/24/2006 7:01 pm
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Most Valued Member
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Please try this link and check whether the same happens. |
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United States
23522 Posts |
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Originally posted by Rui
Please try this link and check whether the same happens.
Similar, but the excess vertical does not appear in the first pic post. It does, however, appear in his second post further down the thread. |
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Most Valued Member
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Well it's a similar mod, so the issue may lie with the way your browser is handling Javascript. I'm in a difficult situation to help, cause I really don't use Firefox at all. I'll try to have a look at a Firefox version to see if I can give you some help.
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United States
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quote:
Originally posted by Rui
Well it's a similar mod, so the issue may lie with the way your browser is handling Javascript. I'm in a difficult situation to help, cause I really don't use Firefox at all. I'll try to have a look at a Firefox version to see if I can give you some help.
IE throws the same stuff at me, so I'm going to pull Java and reinstall. We'll see what comes out. |
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