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 Posted 12/11/2009  06:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dunnyjake to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello fellow boardies this is my first post but I have a question for you with Canadian Coins. I am use to the US Coin sets with the Proof sets and I see that the Specimen Set is the equivalent to it. Now as far as the annual commemorative coin what would that equate to on the Canadian side? Any help would be much appreciated.

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 Posted 12/11/2009  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timotay01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now as far as the annual commemorative coin what would that equate to on the Canadian side?


Did you say 'coin' or 'coins' I have a feeling you may not want to know the real answer.
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 Posted 12/11/2009  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Annual Canadian sets can come in different forms:

- Uncirculated sets which are equivalent to U.S. uncirculated ("business strike") sets
- There are also annual Canadian proof sets, as in the U.S.
- I don't know what Canadian specimen sets would be equivalent to in the U.S.


If you buy an annual Canadian specimen or proof set, it will come with a commemorative dollar coin which is not minted for circulation as a "business strike". This year, the commemorative dollar coin commemorates the, "100th Anniversary of Flight in Canada."

You can see the sets here:

http://www.mint.ca/store/buy/sets_coins-cat120014

Now the confusing part. The Canadian mint also produces commemorative coins for circulation, which are not included in the annual uncirculated/proof/specimen sets. Examples of this are the Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games Coin Collection, :

http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/vanco...Id=cat120014

and the Quebec City 400th Anniversary $2 coin, or "toonie" as we call them. You can look through the Canadian mint site for many many more different circulation coins... I am certain the Canadian mint produces more products per year, by type, than the U.S. mint. (Go Canada!)
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12/11/2009 12:23 pm
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 Posted 12/11/2009  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just so you know what you're dealing with in the terminology:

Proof -- Coin is double-struck on a polished planchet and frosted

Specimen -- Coin is double-struck on a polished planchet, no frosting

Uncirculated -- Business strike, everyday coinage
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 Posted 12/11/2009  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve kuznicki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello dunnyjake

What years are you interested in. Canadian coins have evolved from 1908 to present. I am guessing that you are interested in silver Proof like sets that were popular from 1953 to 1967, but let me know the period and I'll let you know what they made here.




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 Posted 12/13/2009  03:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dunnyjake to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for all the help! I am trying to find out which set I want to collect. I collect the US Sliver Proof set and wanted to start collecting something similar with Canadian coins in terms of long term value.

Two other questions for you.. 1) Was there a defining moment in Canadian Coins like we had in the US with the Statehood Quarters here in the US? I am a completist at heart and mentally knowing that I have a starting point with the Statehood Quarter programs that I don't have to go back all the way with US coins. (Hope that made sense)

Second question is with regards with the Vancouver 2010 Collection if you had 100 USD to spend what set/coins would you spend it on?

thanks again!
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 Posted 12/13/2009  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always liked the Commemorative single dollars I just carried on with them when the loonie was introduced.Plus the fact that they are readily available on e-bay usually for less than the issue price. As to the Olympic set, personally not interested, they pound out way to much product, it's endless. You can get a good idea if you go to the RCM site.
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 Posted 12/14/2009  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're interested in sets that hold value, I'd consider the 1953-1960 proof-like sets that came in cardboard holders. Anything 1961 or later is common, and often trades on bullion value. Otherwise, you can always do like many others have decided to, and collect higher grade business strike material which is generally always in some demand.
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 Posted 12/14/2009  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are contemplating a purchase from the RCM (have you had your head examined lately?), at least wait to pick them up on the secondary market. Within 2 years after issue, most have dropped to bullion price, or little more, and you'll save yourself 40% or more. In my estimation, maybe 5% of the special RCM isuues in the last 10 years have appreciated to any extent. Maybe another 5% have held their own and maybe 10% have dropped only marginally. The rest have dropped like a rock. When I talk about appreciation or depreciation, I'm talking about the value of the coin as a numismatic item, not its bullion value. Granted, due to the high run-up of silver in the last year or so, many RCM issues have appeared to do OK (didn't lose MUCH money) but you still would have been infinitely better off just buying bullion, not the Mint's grandma bait. You can go to almost any coin show or mail/internet sale, and get 2, 3, 4 year old RCM issues for 40, 50, 0r 60% off issue prices. If you love what you collect and enjoy the hobby as a hobby, not an investment, then anything you chose to specialize in is great and more power to you. The RCM puts out much too much product, and makes some very odd choices, today to be anything other than a mass-marketer with ridiculous mark-ups. Collect what you enjoy and buy RCM stuff on the secondary market.
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 Posted 12/14/2009  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the Canadian Proof Set is the eqivilant to the US Proof Sets they are made to be the best produced with ultra heavy cameo strikes (perfect coins)? As for the 2010 Vancouver Olympics coins I would go after the PL set with the wheel chair curling mule in it with the wrong logo that might become a treasure?
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