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1999 D Thin Dime

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 Posted 12/13/2009  12:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello All,

I was in the process of roll wrapping my 10¢ and returning a few to another branch. I notice that the 50 coin counter seems to be short of one in height, so I manually place 5 stacks of 10 coins to make sure. I than notice one of the stack was shorter by almost 1 coin again. I pulled out the one in question here and find that it was 15-35% thinner than all I can find. I have gone over 8 rolls and tried to find something similar and took my 20 power loupe and check to make sure if it was either doctor on the edge, but I couldn't find any. Both side have no indent clamp marks either or vice grip on surfaces to make it thinner? Any other method to make a dime thinner than a regular one? Took 2 pictures, sorry I couldn't get it clear, but just comparing normal one with the thin one.

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 Posted 12/13/2009  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Disregard the thickness of the coin for now, thickness is a function of strike and can vary. The important question is what is the weight?
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 Posted 12/13/2009  04:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How could it possibly be that the weight is normal? Surely minting can't significantly change the density.

And by the way, my primary reason for responding here is so that I'll get email notices of replies. Is there a way to do this without having to make a junk post like this?
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 Posted 12/13/2009  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't it Rude to respond to someones post and tell them, I'm not interested in, or care about you're coin.It's one thing to post "junk post" and another to just blurt it out what you're doing.
If you have a scale weigh it and let us know. I would also like to know the weight of you're coin
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 Posted 12/13/2009  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably the setup process didn't make the rim as high or the coin was pressed somewhere along the way. The weight is probably normal. I found a few 1997-D Cents that were thicker in circulation, but the weight was the same. You could feel the difference in your hand.
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 Posted 12/13/2009  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Isn't it Rude to respond to someones post and tell them, I'm not interested in, or care about you're coin."

No, I am particularly interested in this coin, that's why I made a post. Otherwise I'd forget about it and never see it again. I'm just admitting I have little intelligent to say about the subject, other than that it's interesting.

I had a pinball business for some years and counted more than my share of quarters. I used a quarter counting machine, but I did notice the occasional thin quarter and wondered what causes it.

I don't think it's possible for a dime that thin to have the standard weight. But the way I understand the coining process, I don't see how they could end up with thin blanks.
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 Posted 12/15/2009  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As Biokemist said thickness can be a function of the strike pressure. Surprisingly the greater the pressure the "thicker" the coin will be. If you have two planchets of the same weight and strike one softly and the other one hard the hard one will have the rim more fully struck up resulting in a thicker coin at the edge. The softly struck one will show some reeding but the edges will bevel down from the rim to the reeding on the ede and give you a thinner coin at the edge. Since the rims are where the coin meet when they are stacked a stack o well struck coins wil be taller than a stack of weakly struck ones. (This is why you can get miscounts when rolling coins based on the height of the stacks or the length of the roll.

Now the weight of the planchet can also be a factor in the thickness of the coin. An over weight planchet is also more likely to be well struck and an underweight one is more likely to be weakly struck. but until the coin is weighed you can't tell if the "thick" coin is because of an overweight planchet or just a strong strike. Conversely for the thin coin. Is it underweight or just weakly struck? Striking pressure tends to be the cause of thick an thin coins much more often than off weight planchets.
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And by the way, my primary reason for responding here is so that I'll get email notices of replies. Is there a way to do this without having to make a junk post like this?


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Isn't it Rude to respond to someones post and tell them, I'm not interested in, or care about you're coin.It's one thing to post "junk post" and another to just blurt it out what you're doing.


I think the poster was just asking for help. Maybe the question could have been asked in the Coin Community Support area, but I don't see anything wrong with what was done. Instead of replying to what you think is a rude post with what could be contrued as one of your own, you can use the "Note to Staff" button and let us take a look at it.
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I was waiting for my digital scale to arrive and weighted the dime. The weight was at 2.22 to 2.23 gram, so nothing really substantial to say is off. Average normal weight is 2.27 gram from 2009 guide.

I just want to mention that I am still into coin collecting phases for awhile, but more so seriously involved this year. And I do have many things I need to learn from folks here in this forum. Thanks all who lend their knowledge.
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 Posted 12/17/2009  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My apologies for accusing a fellow member for being rude.You are correct, it's not my place to question nor chastise someone with bad mannerism and will not happen again



No worries Jasper, and thank you for the post, Tights24
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12/17/2009 03:43 am
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Macmercury; would it be possible for you to weigh, perhaps 100 dimes individually? The idea is to make a table of multiples of 0.01 gram, say from 2.20 to 2.34, and count how many fall in each .01 gram slot. Then we'd see just how rare this one was, and also, perhaps, get an idea of how accurate the scale is.

P.S. No apologies necessary, jasper62; it's hard to communicate over the internet and I should have been more clear. I realize now that I have to "Log on" in order to have the button appear.
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