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Tell Me About This 1964 Lincoln Error I Found !

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I know the pictures are terrible.....sorry ! Gimme a day or two to do better here.
But I'd like to hear all about what I have here please.
I found this roll searching. It has some clear hard substance on part of it..... it does kinda pick off too. I don't know if this is some kind of "finger nail polish" that someone put on it as a "preserver" or if someone made this "error" or what exactly.
But ........ WHAT DO I HAVE HERE ? .....

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12/16/2009 11:25 am
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Looks like some sort of glue that another coin left its impression on...
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It's glue.

You have the same thing as my 1970D LMC coin that I posted about a few days ago. I didn't know what that was either until I was able to start removing it with a screw-driver. "Glue like substance"
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So was this "created" by someone then ?....
Are you guys saying someone glued another Lincoln on this one ?

Is this not an error from the Mint ?

And, if not, how/why is the lettering the way it is ? Look closely at the "upside down & backwards" lettering/spelling on the "overlay" coin.......I don't see how this could be "glued" by someone with the lettering being the way it is. Especially on just "part of the coin.
I imagined this as the "underside" of the planchet press of another Lincoln reverse pressed onto this one. Which would make sense with the spelling/lettering being how it is.
So, is this thought wrong ?
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If you were to glue another LMC to your coin you would get exactly that pattern when the coin was removed. You get a mirror image of the coin. If you don't believe it, just press a penny into something like silly putty and see what you get.

As for why only part of the coin show this, if glue wasn't spread evenly over the entire coin you would only get a partial imprint of the other coin.
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12/16/2009 2:18 pm
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I see what you're saying.....but this isn't an "impression" left "into" this coin at all, it's an actual additional coin "stuck" onto the other coin. There are two coins here. Or rather one whole coin and part of another one. The surface is raised above and one can clearly see (in hand) the rim area raised above "the field" and the thickness. Two coins. This is why I can't seem to figure it out how this is done the way you've explained.
But if you guys are 100% sure this isn't an error...and it's just a "junk creation" by somebody....then I'll take your word on it.
And if so....... BOY AM I DEPRESSED NOW !....... I SURE THOUGHT I FOUND SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE ! ......

But wouldn't somebody need a die and a blank LMC to do this ? .....

So.....this isn't even worth Two Cents I take it...... Ohhhhh how crushed I am......I'm gonna be in a bad mood for days and days now.......
GRRRRRRRRRRR !........ **^^##@##***&@!**%% !
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I'm really starting to feel ILL now !.......

I think I may have to go home early and lay down !
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I'm going to leave the office and run over to the nearby train tracks and make me a nice "Flat Cent"........ be right back !










(just kidding....err.....I think I am anyway)
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eaglefoot, funny you should mention a flat cent. That's just what I found in a nickel roll today. Amazing.
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You are overthinking it eaglefoot. Apply Elmer's glue to one cent and stack another cent on top. Wait for the glue to dry and pull apart. The glue adheres to one coin leaving a raised incuse mirror image impression of the removed coin. Look at the area of Lincoln's head- you can see the bust details through the raised area.
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Weigh it. That will tell you that the extra gram, or two is only the glue.. If it were a 'cent-and- a bit" more, it would approach 3.3 grams, or 3.4 grams. looks like someone tried out his "super glue".
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12/16/2009 4:59 pm
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Soak it in distilled water for few minutes, if it is Elmer's it will start to dissolve. Soak it in acetone for a few and if it is a polymer or isocyanate type glue then it will soften and and be easily removed.
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I understand now........ Just VERY dissappointed though !

I thought I found something pretty cool and fairly rare and was so super excited.......then found out it's worth exactly one Cent and that some Lunk-head was playin' around to fool somebody.......and I was pretty fooled (despite the obvious presence of the glue !)

Well....I guess I chalk it up to "coin wisdom" and all around learning process ..... I didn't know much about "errors" before.....and now I know a little more !
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you are not the first nor are you the last that will see something like this and think it is a mint error. it seems to be mostly on Lincoln cents though for some reason that people do this kinf of thing to, I guess because of the small monetary value of the Lincoln Cent
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