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Thanks again  I have added the comments on what was said in the other threads and pictures so everyone will know what the heck is going on hereBryan1315Quote:
Sorry about that lets see if I can up load some photos, Thanks for the help everyone. I did try to contact one of you but as a new guy I have no privalges. My e-mail is (Removed email address)if better photos are needed just e-mail me.
Thanks twohawks  Quote: SeatedNut said: twohawks, Great pictures. That one appears to be the 1878-S Obverse and just from the shot of the eye you need to check out VAMWorld and look at 1878-S VAM 58. Definitely a KEEPER if it is a VAM 58. It's really helpful for us to see the entire obverse and reverse first, and then close-ups of the diagnostics that stick out. When trying to narrow down and confirm VAMs there is a process I go through for 1878 coins. I need to see the tailfeathers, arrow feathers, and motto at the top of the reverse (that's why I say the entire reverse). After I narrow down the reverse, I look for PUPS (pick-up points) on the obverse. I look forward to seeing the complete obv and rev pics. |
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Frazzle,
You need to see all three posts to put this into perspective.
twohawks,
Recommend you pick one post (preferably your original one) and just add to it rather than creating another new topic each time you post.
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I am not real sure what you are trying to point out on the coin, can we see full pictures of and a little description on what you are wanting us to look at to give you an opinion on what VAM it may be |
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Well I seem to be haveing some troble sending well defind photos on the first pic. I am just about sure it is some type of strike double but it is some type I have yet to see until now. the wreath is doubled every where leaves, stems bow, olives branchs, feathers some lettering, the coin is a 1878 P 8 tail and it seems to be a late VAM 9 die there are 2 vary small dot of metal where the kidney sould be and the 3 rd inner feather is almost polished away. Sorry I am haveing troble with the full photo down loads, Lord knows I think this is just a differant coin. If someone places a post tonight I am up going over some of the 630 morgans I just picked up |
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I am going to try one up load at a time   |
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twohawks, Your doing OK ... we're a patient lot here.  The last images you posted are of an 1878-P 8TF Morgan. The reverse configuration of the small feathers between the legs and wings makes this one of three possible VAMs 12, 16, or 17 and an A1f reverse. These are relatively common in the 8TF set so you won't be able to retire on this. Here's a picture of the small feather configuration I spoke of:  The VAM 12 will have a raised area of metal just below the eyelid and at the front of the eye. A VAM 16 will have clearly doubled stars to the left of the date and slightly doubled to the right, and a VAM 17 will have a line dissecting the lower loop of the first 8 in the date. You should be able to narrow it down yourself w/o posting more pictures. Now I have to ask ... that obverse picture you posted yesterday (the second photo in this thread) ... what coin is that? Can we see the entire obverse and reverse? Thanks. |
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Well I thought it was a A1f Rev. I will see if I can that a photo of the right leg area. this looks as if the kidney that is part of the VAM 9 had been there. It looks as if the die had been over polished the right 3dr wing is almost gone. I don't know I 99.9% sure its some type of strike double that effects the whole REV. from the near center to the lettering (but not the dentals) I picked the doubling with out a glass. I like it becuase it is differant, not as money peice. Last night when I only had 2 or 3 marbles rolling around in my head!! If this is a late A1f state coin with the VAM 9, this type chain event, ( dies removed and polished, then placed back and not placed back fully secured) .... die twist or shearing "strike double" on this coin. Then come's tighting the die and go on with life! .... It sounded good last night in my head. Anyway the second Photo is a 1878 S 7 TF I posting the full photos as    |
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twohawks, The VAM 9 reverse was the first for Morgan dollars. The A1f is not a polished/re-engraved VAM 9 reverse. Those raised areas you see may be a clash or contact marks. It's definitely an A1f reverse and all three VAMs I mentioned (12, 16, 17) show that characteristic doubling on the reverse. It was in the die itself and not a mechanical issue. Be careful with those marbles rolling around in your head.  Now the good news! That 1878-S is an elusive "Long Nock" reverse. The coin is a VAM 58 (unmistakeable eye spikes). I would call it VF and worth around $300. |
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if you keep having problems you can open you a free photo bucket account and upload the pictures there and then just right click the picture you want and go down to copy image location and then just post that link into your post and we will be able to see the pictures that way because I am guessing you are talking about having problems with the size limitations of the image on the forum
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Thanks Seated Nut, When the rocks where rolling around last night I found some 1880 over dates 3 differant types and 7 1878's that are differant.... God I love buying a bucket of dollars 632 of them is still alot to go thru.  One day I will go out and get a tripod so I am not trying to take photos free hand. I will post some others if I am lost .... Remember guy's are never wrong... We are only mistaken from time to time!!  1 More thing did I understand you correctly that the (DIE is doubled on the 1878 P !! and it has the metal below the eye makeing it a VAM 12. Thanks Twohawks |
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twohawks,
You'll need to share those 1880 overdates with us too.
Regarding VAMs 12, 16, and 17 - would recommend you visit VAMWorld.Com and specifically "Morgan VAMs by date". You'll find pictures of all the diagnostics there for each of these VAMs and a notation on the reverse doubling on the A1f die.
P.S. - You must tell the story of the "Bucket of Bucks". 632 Silver Dollars WOW!
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Seat Nut, I have a freind that has a jewlery store, and he buys gold and silver. He keeps the silver dollars thur the year. Once a year he calls me, and I bid on them, He never go's over them and He knows nothing about coins. this batch I picked up for 16.92 each 286 Morgans the balance is Peace dollar's. It's a once a year deal. and it happens right before X-mas GREAT TIMING Twohawks |
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