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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need help deciding which one to choose from so I am going to ask yall. The first is a 1846-o, listed as AG but I think the grade is a little less. He is asking $125, seems like a good deal to me but want opinions. Next is a 1872, in G but has a couple rim dents with scratches on reverse, he is asking $195 but has a make offer on it so I was think somewhere around $150-$175 I would offer him. I missed a good one that I was watching, it was in a PCGS: genuine holder looked to be VG and sold for $130, someone got a good deal.
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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't be in a hurry. I picked this VF-20 up for 170.00 ppd a couple weeks ago. It was a buy it now for $180 or best offer. I made an offer of $165 and the seller agreed. They aren't hot movers, and this one had been listed for days without any offers at all. It was listed in Seated half dollars...so in your search, don't just search within the proper category.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow nice buy, I type in Seated dollars and it came up half, quarters and dollars, again nice buy
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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was impressed that the rim was so nice. These are ferquently really banged up. Here's a search tip for you.

Copy and paste the following line into the search dialogue box at the top of the page, and search "all categories"...not just US coins:

Seated dollar, -replica, -copy, -half, -quarter

That will eliminate that which you don't want to look at. a hyphen before any search term is like a "minus" sign....and I use it a lot.

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 Posted 12/22/2009  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for the tip
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 Posted 12/22/2009  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what about this one, does it look really, and I was thinking VF as the grade, maybe bump to low EF jmo



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 Posted 12/23/2009  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm by no means an expert, but I'd say that one would grade in the neighborhood of VF-30.

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 Posted 12/23/2009  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First of all nice coin.
Just out of curiosity and a learning experience, does anyone think that the coin looks cleaned. If not I am way off base.
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 Posted 12/23/2009  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's quite possible, even likely that both the one I bought and the latest being offered have been cleaned long ago. MOST of the Seated dollars you will encounter have been. It used to be a much more accepted (or at least common) practice. Speaking only for myself, there are cleaned coins that I find offensive....Coins in otherwise great condition that have been harshly abraded, and which are scored and scratched, and those harshly polished.

There are coins that are more heavily circulated (the lower mid grade coins) that have been cleaned long ago and have regained some patina over the ensuing decades. Those specimens I find less offensive, and even attractive sometimes....as long as the seller isn't asking a ridiculous premium for them. For me....once you get to the circulated grades "original surfaces" means a lot less....because those original surfaces were lost to daily commerce a century ago.

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 Posted 12/23/2009  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is there a good chance that the coin is real
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 Posted 12/23/2009  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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is there a good chance that the coin is real


Yes, there's a good chance, but I'm taking the seller's good reputation into account as much as any visual evidence in this case. He offers nice key dates and reputable slabs. However, I'm a little bothered by the rim ding at 5:00 obverse, and the chunk missing from the reverse field east of the eagle's head. I would expect this auction to end north of $300.
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 Posted 12/23/2009  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys need to be wary of fakes though, REAL wary. These are out there everywhere. 'Reputable' sellers might just not know that they have a fake coin. Make sure there is a return policy, post it here, verify it against certified examples on heritage, check the weight, and bring it to a reputable dealer for an opinion.
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 Posted 12/23/2009  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think any of the coins shown in this thread are counterfeits. That having been said...yes this is a series where caution is a must, and some study time at the heritage completed auctions will serve you well. The Chinese fakes that I have seen...are relatively easy to spot, were obviously made on inferior (soft and carelessly prepared) dies and the rim/denticle treatment is wrong.

Study originals....and yes, a return policy is not a bad idea. Talk to the seller. I think you'll find that most of them are easy enough to get along with. If their policy is "you bought it...you got it" with no exceptions if it turns out to be a counterfeit, then pass.

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 Posted 12/26/2009  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, this coin doesn't look as good as the others, but it is in my price range, the seller says it weighs 25.6, it is guaranteed genuine, opinions please.




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 Posted 12/26/2009  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still of the opinion that you ought to wait. Take a look again at the 1842 I bought for just 40 dollars more.

That's probably an OK price on this one, but the seller describes it as being VG...which clearly it is not. It's a G-4 on it's best day, and no better. I'd rather tolerate a hole in the album than to have paid so much for a coin that, if I were to have to sell it on ebay...I would lose money after the fees were deducted.

It's really hard to trade up with low end coins.

Patience....

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 Posted 12/26/2009  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harris53 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Chancellor Sutler........ WAIT WAIT WAIT.
Low grade coins are not going anywhere, they will always be with us.
Save up a little more money and get one that makes you smile, You will be glad you did.
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