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1982-D Is This A Double Die?

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1982-D--Is-This-A-Double-Die?

1982-D--Is-This-A-Double-Die?

1982-D--Is-This-A-Double-Die?

1982-D--Is-This-A-Double-Die?

1982-D--Is-This-A-Double-Die?

I am working on my pic taking skills...as yet, they are poor. I hope the notches are clear enough on these pics. Am I seeing a double die coin? Thanks for the feedback.
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Okay...first, it's "doubled die" - not "double die".

Second, your lighting angle needs to be moved so that you're not shining light on the sides of the letters. It needs to shine more straight-down onto the coin.

Third, you are using more than one lighting source. Not good...move down to one lighting source. All of the light needs to be coming from one direction so that it casts proper shadows on the devices.

Fourth - When you're asking about coins, PLEASE be specific as to what you see and where it is. I cannot look at a group of random photos of a coin and know exactly what you are looking at. You need to slow down a bit with your posts, and write at least 50 words on exactly what it is that makes you think the coin was worth photographing and posting here.
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Thanks, Chuck...I appreciate the help. I am using a hand held microscope/digital camera I got from Santa...the lighting comes from the LED lights on the unit. I sure did not mention anymore than 'I think I see notches' and that wasn't much. I do appreciate your help and direction.
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I think I see what your seeing Bennie. The TY in LIBERTY looks like notches. I see some kind of marks on UNITED and on the date too. I'm not good enough to say yes or no if it's a doubled die or not. Have you checked out https://www.coppercoins.com ?
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I love Coppercoins site! I spend about an hour or so a day/night browsing and trying to learn...but this is gonna take some time. I know you pro's get tired of having to tell us new folk just what you've probably told someone at least once a day for the last ten years...lol. I understand. I am using only one source of light that I am aware of...the led lights that come from underneath the hand held scope. I put it down over the coin...and focus as best as I can. If there is some other light that is getting in, and I am certain it can happen. The lighting in our house is track lighting and we use low watt bulbs in it. I don't have a desk lamp I use, just the LED lights in a circle that come from the scope. Maybe it is the LED lights I need to tone down somehow? I need some help with that and I will get that in the 'photography forum'. Thanks for 'seeing' what I am seeing...I will put this aside until I can take better pics to post. It is much clearer with my other scope, but I cannot take pics on the computer with that one, so...sigh.
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If your lights are in a circle and shine at the coin from different angles, this is the same thing as having more than one light source. It's the multiple angles of light that are the killer. Your light needs to spot in from one direction. Multiple directions of light kills the shadows necessary to see doubling.
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Thanks for letting me know that...I think I can fix that one!
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Bennie, I have the same LEDs in a circle on my scope. I tape some tissue paper over them to diffuse or block the light entirely, and sometimes block all but one depending on how it looks onscreen.

Also check in your software options - sometimes you can turn the lights off from there. There is also an option for lighting - it will compensate and brighten the image using any available outside light source (which is easier for you to control the angle of) if you check or uncheck that box (can't remember what the name of the option is offhand).

It takes a bit of trial and error, but it's definitely doable
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Thank you for that info! I will check to see if I have software options...if not, I will try to tape off those LEDs...and I just finished reading your idea in the photo forum...lol. I will do this and see if it does the trick. Thanks!
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Bennie,
Check my posts in the photo forum if you get the chance. I have a USB microscope,a Celestron and it has too bright of lighting also so I blocked off the LEDS.What brand of USB scope do you have?
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Wife gave me a Barska 10X300 PC Digital Microscope for Christmas...with 6 LED lights. I just placed some rubber tips from a picture frame on those babies...pics still look like they were taken by a rabid dog...woof.
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If it's this one http://cgi.ebay.com/DIGITAL-MICROSC...on_W0QQitemZ360154951339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53dae86eab you can adjust the lighting to four different levels. When I was shopping for a usb scope it was my second choice. I kinda wish I got it instead of my Celestron.
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1. Get rid of all but one point of light.
2. Diffuse the point you have left with a white plastic sack or something translucent and white.
3. Move the light so you get shadows all the way around the letters.
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