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 Posted 12/27/2009  1:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zippo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have this coin and am looking for any information I can get on it.
Thank you..

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 Posted 12/27/2009  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a medallion
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 Posted 12/27/2009  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Mr. Zippo, WOW, I don't know what it is, nor have I ever seen one like it in my life. It is however a beautiful item. Someone here will give you information about it sooner or later! With the wealth of knowledge this site holds in it's membership, nothing goes untold!

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 Posted 12/27/2009  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zippo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After digging further into the internet I was able to find the following information...

This is a passage from the American Journal of Numismatics, January 1884...

CCCCLXXXIV. Obv. Dominion Of Canada A herald to the right blowing a trumpet; in her left hand she holds a palm branch and a wreath of laurel; at the bottom p. Tasset

Rev. Arms of the Dominion of Canada, surmounted by a crown between a wreath of maple leaves ; on the bottom of the wreath is a beaver to the left. Bronze. Size 41 m. are 2.

This medal was first given in gold, silver and bronze to the Canadian exhibitors at the Centennial Exhibition in 1876. It has been given at one or two Dominion Exhibitions since then. The dies were executed in Paris on the order of Mr. Perault, who was one of the Canadian Commissioners at the Exhibition. The relief is low, and the herald on the obverse a stock design.

R. W. MCI.ACHLAN.


Now the question for me is... how does one go about getting a value put on something like this?
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 Posted 12/27/2009  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zippo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Chequer... you beat me to it
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 Posted 12/27/2009  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was going to type it all out, but I got lazy

I couldn't find anything in any online past auctions ( ebay or others) for value. Is yours silver (it looks silver in colour from the photo)? Did you check to see if it was non-magnetic? What are its dimensions? It's a very attractive piece. I would love to find out more about it. I wonder if there's ever been anything in the Canadian Numismatic Journal perhaps. If I find out anything I'll let you know.
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 Posted 12/27/2009  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zippo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Copy and paste worked for me

Yes it is definitely silver. It weighs 38.8 grams, 42mm wide and 3mm thick. It's quite a hefty coin.

I've been slowly working my way through a large collection I inherited from my father. While sorting through the silver dollars, 50 & 25 cent pieces which I just finished cataloging(roughly 750 pieces), I have come across a few gems like this one. Pieces like this give me a refreshing break from looking at the same denominations again and again... only probably another 1,500 coins to go through

Thanks again
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 Posted 12/28/2009  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one of thees pieces, in silver and bronze. I have felt the value of the silver issue is about $250. I was not aware of the history, so thanks. I have seen them for this price in both auctions and dealers sales.
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 Posted 12/28/2009  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, it is definately a medal. rather than a medallion. It is an official issue.
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 Posted 12/28/2009  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I paid (auction - plus juice, more than 6 years ago) Can$150 for the silver and 80 for the bronze (both proof 67). I had a pair, not that good, sold for 250 3 years ago.

In my opinion, this is the most stunning medals I ever saw

I am still looking for the gold medal - if you know about it, please PM me
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 Posted 12/28/2009  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know I typically just browse past images of medals as I collect coins, so those usually don't cut it for me, but my jaw just dropped when I saw this. Nice posted image which helped with the wow appeal.
What a wonderul piece, and I just cant believe the design detail on both sides.
What a refreshing image seeing this herald blowing this trumpet, when typically when it comes to ladys we are only use to seeing Lady Liberty on coins from our neighbours of the South.
If it is really silver, I'm surprised it hasn't toned up completely, including within the fine detail of the Coat of Arms.
Any chance it would fit in a 1 dollar air-tite to protect it?
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12/28/2009 08:35 am
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 Posted 12/28/2009  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zippo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the excellent information about this item.

For Dollar1948, this coin has been in a vinyl coin pouch for at least the last 20 years that I know of. I was thinking of looking for some kind of clear plastic coin capsule to make it even more air tight in order to preserve the finish on it. Haven't found one on the net yet that would fit it but just starting the search.

Once again, thanks to all of You!
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 Posted 12/28/2009  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar1948 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please make certain you find another holder for it. Typically, but not always, vinyl=PVC, and PVC contamination on coins can be horrendous. If the holder smells like a kids beach ball then thats a good sign its laced with PVC.
Research PVC a little on this site and see what I mean.

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 Posted 12/28/2009  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My pair is at a remote location so I can't give you the precise measurements.

It is huge, bigger than the SML. To make matters worse (in terms of capsules) the coat of arms is in high relief (believe me the medal is 100 times prettier than the image) so most capsules I tried are not thick enough for the medals. Silver and bronze are the same size - I have no idea about the gold.

My medals are inside CCCS soft flips, they are almost the same size as the flips - CCCS does not have hard slabs big enough for the medals.

I agree with Dollar48: remove the coins from the unsafe (?) holders as of yesterday - better to keep them between 2 sheets of white Irish linen than inside unknown plastic.
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 Posted 03/27/2011  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add miami charm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Curious,

Did you ever receive more information on this silver medal? I have one exactly the same and was curious as to what it may be worth.
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