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Is This 1928 Peace Dollar A Counterfeit?

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 Posted 01/05/2010  3:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carlanddarla to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have these two 1928 Peace dollars and need some input about one of them being a possible counterfeit. The one on the left (bright) is a real one and the other that is dark toned, I am not sure of as I have never seen this type of toning before on any coin I have had. First, both coins are the same size and weight. Only difference that I can see is the toning of the one. It is shiny, bright, smooth feeling, like maybe a gun tone finish. I didn't want to try any coin cleaner to see if the toning would come off as it would sure distract from this coin if it is real. Any help appreciated. I guess I should send it in for grading to see if it a fake or not. Thanks

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 Posted 01/05/2010  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

It's difficult to say from your pictures. If you can post a seperate picture of both side of each coin, we might be able to tell better.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hemisboats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also welcome you!you have come to the right place as many of these people on here have knowledge and experience that you cannot get in a book. I am getting there myself.

I also agree, take separate pictures and include front and back. This will give all of us a chance to compare more details and give you a more accurate opinion.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, photos of the reverse of the coin are important in this case, as many of the faked 1928 Peace dollars are 1928S dollars that have had the mm removed.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
both look real...the one on the right is in better shape
attractive coin even with the dark toning...AU condition each worth about $500!

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 Posted 01/05/2010  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it looks real but the best part is it weighs the same
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I have a Peace dollar that has somewhat similar, very dark, toning. It spent at least 25 years between two cardboard layers in a picture frame, and I have no reason to believe that it is a fake because of the toning. (DON'T clean it, either, whatever you do!)
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What nod2003 said; watch for the removed MM. The coin is cheap enough that not many would make an actual fake of it, but it certainly might be altered. Will take a discerning eye as the MM's on Peace dollars are small; in fact nod spotted a D mintmark on the one he bought from me when I totally missed it! I have no reason to believe that its an outright fake though, just because of what I said.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree they both appear to be genuine, nice coins.
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Have a look at the obverse of the toned coin. I'm seeing parallel hairlines, running from NW-SE. That makes me think that the coin was mechanically cleaned, and then artificially toned to hide the hairlines. It's technically in good enough shape so that someone might do that to an example with built-up dirt/crud to increase its' perceived value.

Get it under bright light and play with the viewing angle. If it's actually hairlined as I suggest, it should show up clearly under halogen light or bright sunlight.
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I'm seeing parallel hairlines, running from NW-SE. That makes me think that the coin was mechanically cleaned, and then artificially toned to hide the hairlines

The hairlines are definitely more obvious in the obverse photo, dark AT is a common way to hide a harsh cleaning. Dark toning like that can develop naturally when stored in the proper conditions, but if it is hairlined then this is the most obvious explanation.
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