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still learning about errors and found this in my Indian Heads. Thought at first it was scratches but on closer the lines are raised. Any ideas? 
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Pillar of the Community
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They are most likely knife or razor cuts that have lifted the silver slightly. Subsequent wear to the coin will cause the raised metal to widen and appear as if the cause were die oriented.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't have the Snow attribution guide for 1892, but perhaps someone here can better describe the Snow-14 "scarface" variety. I assume that it denotes some heavy die damage on the portrait. While I cannot say for sure from the pic, I'll take your word that the lines are raised. If you shoot the coin under several lighting angles, that might help everyone to tell better. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Those pics help, because I think I'm seeing raised lines--right?  So...if they're raised, they most likely originated on the die. Can anyone confirm markers for the 1892 S-14 "scarface"?
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Pillar of the Community
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Kurt, If you can have them make shots of A, the face area, 3/4 face, B, last feather tip, and C, the date areaclose in. Looking at the pgotos shown, and the three area requested, my first impression is not good. I am looking at the three views, at this moment. Dick
Edited by livingdinasaur 01/14/2010 3:56 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Dick, Just giving him the benefit of the doubt, lacking proper documentation here I cannot say better. If I had the coin in-hand, I might say different. Then again, Rick Snow himself could say better for a modest fee. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Mind posting a large picture of the entire obverse and reverse?
Scarface has 'numerous raised lines on the portrait and surrounding field' on the obverse (face, last feather tip, date area), and - Reverse P: Olive leaf and shield points connected to the denticles.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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They are cuts/scrapes that have displaced the metal, raising it up on one side. Anything that was there at the time of minting would not survive fully intact with wear down to the G/VG level.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 Yep, after seeing more of the coin, that's the only possibility. We're not looking at struck surfaces here.
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New Member
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thanks for helping me out
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Pillar of the Community
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Glad to see the correct assessment has been arrived at. You guys were beginning to scare me.
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Pillar of the Community
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 Nah.. we just don't dismiss anything out of hand - the possibilities are always endless. Like DV said, giving the benefit of the doubt. At least until we can tell for sure 
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Pillar of the Community
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I have to agree there..reaching for the stars is not wrong.......but sometimes (LIKE NOW LOL) is not the time....post mint damage from the start.....and to the finish......
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Nah.. we just don't dismiss anything out of hand  there's nothing lost by holding snap judgments...for better pics. Big difference between holding a coin in-hand and looking at a few cropped photos--imo.
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