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 Posted 01/12/2010  7:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm watching an auction that I'm interested in bidding on. The seller includes disclaimer that I've seen in other auctions.

Verbatim:

Quote:

USA postage & insurance is $8. Winners from outside the USA (including Canada) please add $18 for postage/insurance. NOTE: Coins are sent at the buyer's risk as the USPS will no longer insure collector coins plus most countries have limits on the value of insurance.


My understanding is it's always the seller's responsibility ensure the product is delivered. Can someone simply waive that responsibility away by typing a sentence in their auction?

Also, is it true that USPS will no longer insure coins?
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 Posted 01/12/2010  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We use private insurance so don't really know about the PO.

One thing is clear though, seller disclaimers in a listing do not supersede FTC mail order law. The seller is responsible to get it to you. Period.
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 Posted 01/12/2010  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe that is true:

http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/609.htm

Section 4.1.g:


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Payable Claim
Insurance for loss or damage to insured, registered, or COD mail within the amount covered by the fee paid or within the indemnity limits for Express Mail as explained in 4.2 is payable for the following:

a thru f deleted by KenKat

g. Fair market value of stamps and coins of philatelic or numismatic value, as determined by a recognized stamp or coin dealer or current coin and stamp collectors newsletters and trade papers.
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01/13/2010 11:34 am
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 Posted 01/13/2010  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Paratrooper,

It's smoke. ebay will side with the buyer and refund your money (including shipping costs) if the seller cannot provide proof of delivery. Now the $8 charge for shipping and insurance would send me from the get go. If you want to deal with this seller, you will have to pay the $8. If the coin does arrive, but has incurred damage during transit, the seller has a delivery confirmation and you have a damaged coin. Of course your $8 was supposed to include insurance ... it gets real dicey from here on.
Take pictures immediately of the packaging and contents, then contact the seller.

Bottom line is the seller has an obligation to get the item to you to fulfill his/her contract in ebay's eyes. Of course if you pay by check or money-order instead of PayPal, you are dealing with the seller only.
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 Posted 01/13/2010  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One way of getting around buying insurance is to send by Registered mail. That must be why he wants so much for shipping. If properly wrapped, there likely would be no damage.
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