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1909 VDB

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Any opinions would be greatly appertiated

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I'll put it this way...I don't have an 1909 VDB.... :( so of course, I'd say keeper!!! With the wear in the wheat ears...I'd have to be cautous to say F-12...or a weak VF-20.
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I would say f12. I have an S VDB that was graded at F15 by anacs (My only graded coin), and this one has a little more wear. But the pictures are not the best. It would be nice to have a larger picture to see some more detail.
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The Reverse looks a little stronger than the obverse, unfortunately the Obverse bears most of the grade,

I cant make out the facial detail all that good, but the coat lines seem particularly worn or weak,,

VG-10 is the best I can give without better pics.

Rick

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I'll be a little harsher than Rick and say G-06 to maybe VG-08.

I've got a 1909 VDB somewhere around here that I pulled out of circulation a number of years ago (25?). Long story, but my brother-in-law's mother had obtained about 15 wheat cents in change, all earlier dates, while Christmas shopping. I guessed that some kid had raided his father's coin collection and spent them for presents or whatever. I discovered this little treasure trove during a family session with a toy slot machine Xmas present and tracked down their origins, finally had b-i-l's mother pull all her change out of her purse and found even more.

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Hi Fred

Cant be G-6 rims are full and show no connection with the Motto.Wheat still appears to have some seperation of detail lines in the heads.

After looking at the photo's again to make sure we were looking at the same coin .1909-VDB

Im not so sure that this coin may not have been a struck through on the obverse.Or even weakly struck and did not get full details on the highest points.

I tried enlarging the scans, but they became blurred.

Tpatna please try and get larger pics,, I would like to get a better look at this coin.

Thanks
Rick

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OK. Will do. I am at work right now but I will take some better pics with my microscope when I get home....apx 08:00am MST

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OK. Just got home from work and put the coin under the microscope.

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I'm sticking with my F12...
VDB shows up well.
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with the new and much better pics,, VF-20

coin still shows a seperation of the cheek and jaw, with good hair detail ear and bowtie are well defined, the wheat ears on the reverse show mostly seperated detail lines.

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With the better pics (doesn't seem like the same coin, does it?), I can go up to F-12, maybe F-15, but I don't see it making the cut to VF-20. I think the bowtie, hair, cheek, and jaw just are a little too worn without enough separation, especially around the bowtie; the reverse could go to at least VF-20 and probably more, but most of a coin's grade is based on the obverse. One other thing bothers me about this Wheat cent: the coloration. It might be a function of the image's lighting, but it almost looks like it was rubbed a long time ago.

I'd rather stay on the low side of a grade when doing it from an image. Keeps the blood pressure down.
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