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Valued Member
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well this is a very friendly site and it will remain that way I'm sure for a long time. However, my offer stands as I am a man of my word to pay half of the expenses to help John out and get this thing graded. It seems to me that there could be some issues but when we are dealing with photographs (especially mine) and is often difficultto get an exact read on a coin! To me, it has a casted look.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I hope you didn't take my post as a stab at your character, it is just worth it to me to find out if this thing is real or not. It doesn't cost much to get a coin authenticated and as I said if it is authenticated it will make its worth much much more to whoever ends up with your coins when you are no longer with them. I have been wrong before on this board and I am one that has no trouble saying I am wrong when I am. I really hope this coin is a real one because I love seeing members on this site find fantastic stuff like this but as I said something just doesn't look right to me and I would take this as a learning experience. I also want to add this isn't the first time I have made this offer to a member of this forum so it is nothing against you I am just a proof type of guy and if it makes it into a anacs slab that is proof enough for me. I thought you would take this as a win win situation not something against you personally as I was just trying to help you out here is another 1871-CC Half   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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From the pics I'm 50/50 on genuine/fake. It could go either way. The color looks off and the reverse shows almost no wear [AU58 grade for the reverse], while the obverse has noticeable wear [EF40 or so]. These Ellery Queen puzzles are fun!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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One more note: The coin Bryan posted looks AU50 or 53 to me. PCGS was harsh.
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While I am certainly not an expert on authentication, the small porous dots in the open fields at the 3 o'clock position raise suspicion with me, as to a poor casting. And the pit above the cleavage. The folds under the right arm vary in depth and mushiness. I have my doubts...but I've been wrong before. John S, what do you have to lose with somebody else footing the bill for authentication and (possible) grading through ANACS?  |
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okay! I'm just going to come right out and say it, he will lose his perceived ownership of a genuine very rare coin! No hard feelings and I don't say that to stir things up by adding all the facts together that is the only answer possible. This is the last I will say on the subject. JohnS, the offer still stands if you'd like Brian and us to help you get it authenticated!
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Pillar of the Community
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since people think that the coin I have been posting are suspected to not be real That's not true. Bottom line: We appreciate coins. Period. We all want your coin to be authentic. Believe me, no one would be more happy for you than the members of this Forum if the coin is real. And the best way to authenticate it is through ANACS. Do you really not want to authenticate this coin? (I, for one, would want to know if a coin I had was not an authentic one). And it don't cost nothin'! Like Bryan said, it's win-win! And if it's not real? At least you would know. And we all know what it's like when one of your coins is determined to not be authentic. It's heartbreaking but it's still better to know than not know. |
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I agree with moe! This is all an attempt to get to the actual facts about the coin nothing more. It's very hard to judge by what words on the paper what a person's tone is but mine is of jubilant as if the coin is real and one of melancholy if it is not. As moe has stated, we simply love coins!
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the small porous dots in the open fields at the 3 o'clock position raise suspicion with me, as to a poor casting The OP has already acknowledged that this is a cleaned metal detector find that came from a hoard of SL halves, that would certainly explain the slightly "off" appearance if genuine. IMO, the pics provided are not good enough to authenticate the coin or declare it a fake, that is something that could only be definitively done with the coin in hand. Since the OP claims this was from a detected hoard, I really have no reason to doubt authenticity and it is quite possible that this coin has been buried for over 100 years. Obviously for resale, TPG or expert authentication is a must but it sounds like the OP has no interest in giving up the coins any time soon although it probably should be done at some point for the security and financial well-being of his heirs. |
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The OP has already acknowledged that this is a cleaned metal detector find I guess that's been my whole point all along. How many cast coins are found metal detecting? Why would the OP have any reason to lie? If there are cast bubbles as stated, I did not see any personally. Having said that, we all love coins! We want nothing but the best for all CCFers. I am sticking to my original opinion on this coins authenticity. If it's not, so be it. It's just my opinion from what I can observe from the OP's pics. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Just my opinion for what it's worth..... Get the coin authenticated
Like eveyone has said it's a win-win situation.
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