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Need Help Identifying Two Chinese Coins

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I just picked these two up today. The cash coin is blank on the reverse other than the rim. The second coin, which I believe to be from the early part of the 20th century, is apparently from Tsing-Kiang, but there is no listing for a province of that name in my Krause Books. Any help would be appreciated!



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 Posted 01/19/2010  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tsing Kiang is a city in Kiangsu province. Hope that helps some.
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zeewool- Ah, thanks! Now I have found it. It is from Kiangsu-Chingkiang Province and is Y#78.1 (since mine is not reeded). Thanks!

Now I just need some help with the first coin. Any help would be appreciated!
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The first one could be Vietnam/Annam phan coin. Many of those have a plain reverse. I found a coin with the Greek looking "pi" symbol on the bottom, but the rest didn't match.
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svslav- It possibly could be from Annam, but there is just something about it that is making me think that it is much older than most cash coins you see in junk boxes. It is actually somewhat thick for a cash coin. Also, the symbol on the right of the central square hole is really quite different from most cash coins that I have seen, be they from Vietnam or China.
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Emperor YING TSUNG
AD 1064-1067
Reign title: CHIH-P'ING, AD 1064-1067
Bronze 1 cash. Obverse: "CHIH-P'ING YUAN-PAO" in seal and orthodox scripts. Reverse: blank. 24 mm. Average 3.34 grams.

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 Posted 01/20/2010  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice dig! Dollarcoins, do you have one or you found it in some database?
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Well...I can recognize the words "CHIH-P'ING YUAN-PAO" on the coin. I got it from the website. I need to add the reference.
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dollarcoins- I never use emoticons, but Whoo-hoo! 11th Century! Thanks!

So how much do you think that my coin may be worth in this grade?

Also, thanks for the input, svslav & zeewool.
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 Posted 01/20/2010  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem.

Don't be too excited. Generally, the ancient Chinese coins do not worth too much.
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dollarcoins- Oh, well I know that most cash coins do not bring notable premiums. I'm just glad to have a cash coin that old. So do you think that it is worth less than a dollar in the grade? I actually just paid 25 cents for it. So just so long as it is worth that much, I'm happy.
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I think that you cannot handle the truth. Thus, I didn't tell you on my previous reply. The price of your coin is about $1.75. Good job.

VG 1.75 F $2.50 VF $4.00
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dollarcoins- ah thanks! I pretty much figured that it was worth about that. Frankly I was just quite happy since it seems that nearly every cash coin I see around my neck of the woods is always from the late 18th, early 19th, or is one of the "fake" Kwangtung struck cash coins from the 1890s. I'm just happy to have something quite old and different from the norm around here.
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The cash coin: it's listed in Jen - the Chinese Cash catalogue put out by Krause - as Zhi Ping yuan bao (Jen uses Pinyin anglicization rather than Wade-Giles), Li script variety - Zhi Ping yuan bao coins come in two other scripts, where the characters have different shapes. Catalogue numbers J#242, FD# 939. CV 50 cents in VG; I think 25 cents would be a fair price in this condition. I don't have this particular type, but I paid $1 each for examples of the other two Zhi Ping yuan bao script types, bought from a coin club member that specializes in Asian coins.

Examples of the five major varieties and assorted minor variations for this reign-name can be found on this Zeno page.
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Sap- Thanks for the link and the info!

Thanks again, everybody!
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