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 Posted 01/21/2010  07:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I bought these two Thai coins in Cambodia,
in suspiciously looking shop. Are they real or forgeries?
What to look for?



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 Posted 01/21/2010  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to say 100% fake. The toning looks fake, the first coin should be 15 grams of .900 silver. I wasn't able to find the second one listed.
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 Posted 01/21/2010  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scott3270 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i don't know nothing about the coins but by looking at the pictures they look fake to me
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 Posted 01/21/2010  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here we have beautiful example how important is to do some homework before buying coins !
I didn't have any idea what it is, I just like the elephants. Fortunately they didn't cost much. Now I will frame and hang them on the wall to remind me I am not as clever as I thought.


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Turtle, they are not coins, nor are they forgeries per say. These are both 'amulets'. I do not believe that these items were produced for the intent of deceit. The authentic coin is silver, but these amulets are either bronze or brass, I do not recall which.

Rama V is revered to such high degree, that to possess a piece bearing his resemblance is a good thing, to be carried with you everywhere, in your purse or pocket or around your neck (for luck).

The first item shown is a very good likeness of a real coin dated 1908, the last coin struck before his death in 1910.

The second item is also an amulet, but not patterned after an authentic coin.

What to look for (if you want to purchase the real silver coin) is this on the obverse:

Notice the medals on his chest; the second medal will hang the lowest.

Notice the collar on his tunic, it is very heavily embroidered.

Notice the under collar below his tunic, it encircles the neck, not just partially.

Notice his necklace and medallion, it is very ornate.

On the reverse there will be the number 127 (in Thai) under the elephant.

Below is the real thing:












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 Posted 01/21/2010  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add turtleoverhead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
zeewool - thank you, you gave me my self-confidence back (not all of it)
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