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Mexico 1887 10 Centavo KM# 403 - Fake? Rare? - Bronze

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 Posted 01/26/2010  4:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Today I found a Mexican 10 Centavo KM# 403 (i think it's the Guanajuato mint).

Question is...is it fake?

This should be struck in silver and I knew that when I bought it. The coin is clearly marked that it should be silver but there isn't a hint of silver plating anywhere on the coin. (I have seen plenty of left over silver plating on contemporary fakes of this vintage on higher value coins)

The coin seems to be struck in Bronze. I understand that some coins were some times stuck in Bronze if silver was for some reason unavailable (war etc).

SAP, you have any input? Others?

I know you want photos...so here ya go:

Mexico-1887-10-Centavo-KM#-403---Fake?-Rare?---Bronze

Mexico-1887-10-Centavo-KM#-403---Fake?-Rare?---Bronze
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01/26/2010 4:03 pm
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 Posted 01/27/2010  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin you have posted is a contemporary circulating counterfeit. It was likely silvered to pass. The core being brass or bronze points to a late date 1890s or so. There was a large hoard of these types discovered in the late 1990s. That particular group of counterfeits had been stripped of the majority of silver plating in a refinery. The "off metal cores" were disposed of in a dump and it is that dump which was discovered.

The hoard contained VERY FEW examples from the early period and as far as I have been able to determine no Riddell examples at all.

The type is rather common (perhaps in the 100s of examples per date) with many repeats of the identical dies. Most are well worn as is your coin. The die style appears close enough to original to have been created through some sort of transfer process.

The type rarely brings over $5 to $10 and there are fewer collectors of the decimal counterfeit series than the earlier reale series.
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01/27/2010 9:09 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2010  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's AWESOME info!!

Thank you.

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