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A Few Of My Ancients To Share

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Thought I'd share a few of my Ancients. I believe I have identified them correctly but, I need the dates associated with these coins or rulers. I am studying sites like wildwinds but still have trouble putting dates to them. Thanks in advance

Commodus AR Denarius
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Herennia Etruscilla AR Antoninianus
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Not sure on this one AE It's a small coin
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Very nice, I particularly like the double struck bronze of what looks like Constans.
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Commodus: this one can be dated quite precisely, thanks to the recursions of office stated on the reverse: TRP VI IMP IIII COS III PP dates it to the early half of 181 AD. Reverse Roma Seated, Sear # 5707.

Herennia Etruscilla: coinage only began in her name in 250, and her husband (Trajan Decius) only reigned until 251, though it's speculated that coinage continued to be made in her name after her husband;s death. I can't see enough of the reverse to be certain of the type, but I think it's PVDICITIA AVG (Modesty of the Empress). This seems to have been a very common motif for coins in the name of this woman; there are 16 examples on Wildwinds. Frankly, I think anyone that feels the need to stamp "I'm modest" on coinage distributed throughout the Empire isn't really being all that modest, but this logic seems to have escaped Mrs. Decius.

The double-struck bronze: the reverse type is SECVRITAS REIPVBLICAE with Victory advancing left; this type was most commonly employed by Valens, Valentinian and Gratian, all dating from 360-380 AD.
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Thank you very much for your information. I really appreciate it! I love mint errors and purchased that last one because it was double struck. How often did this occur on Ancients? I have a Gallenius AR Denarius that is double struck also but not this dramatic. Thanks again ;-)
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I love mint errors and purchased that last one because it was double struck. How often did this occur on Ancients?

It happened much more often than it does on "modern" machine-struck coinage, due to the way that coins were made back then. A mint worker placed a blank coin on top of the lower die (this was almost always the obverse), placed the upper die (the reverse) on top of it, and then he (or his assistant) smashed the whole assembly with a hammer. There's lots of scope for misalignments, major and minor, to happen when each coin has to be lined up by hand.

If a coin was badly off-centre the first time it was struck and it happened to catch their attention, the mint workers might "have another go at it", rather than toss it back into the scrap bin for remelting. They'd already wasted enough time on that coin and probably wouldn't give it a second glance. The result would be a coin like yours.

Because of the high frequency of occurrence, "mint errors" in ancients are often seen in a different light to errors on modern coins. For ancients, it's the well-centred, evenly struck, defect-free coins that are scarce, and carry a premium. Only the truly spectacular errors (and yours is pretty spectacular) are worth as much or more than a well-made example.
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I love mint errors and purchased that last one because it was double struck. How often did this occur on Ancients?


The errors are interesting - below is one I picked up a few months ago, even in its bad state it appears to have been circulated. I guess they were more interested in quantity than quality.

If you are into the odd ancients do you collect Barbarous copies? - I think they are very interesting, possibly more so than the coins they were based on - I'll start a thread and put a few pics of mine in and see if anyone else has any.

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Great pictures indeed !
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Bobby, that is a cool coin!
jc67, Welcome to the CCF!
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