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Newspaper Coin Collection ! Score! ! ! - 1913 Update

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 Posted 02/02/2010  06:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add joe finds to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I here and see all. And thanks for yet another fine photo! Now, after another look at all that was said, I noticed simulatries I have to point out that were not seen or noticed.There are notches and lines on 923 . I've taken the photo and changed the contrast and color to better define these darke lines.Though still hard to see, they are not as important as the points that I just noticed.
I've wondered why that line cuts across the '6'. And why there are two raised areas - - Both have to do with the same. And when I went back and forth and back and forth between my photos and Superdave's, they are identical to Superdave's photo! !
Now the very bottom of my coin shows to have more ware than the rest of the coin. I don't know if, what, or why the number below dont stand out or up the way they should, But they are most definatly there. I did not concentrate on these "raised areas" when I was taking my picts because they did'nt match up to any of the lines in , or notches on the Date. But I am now!
As I said before, this was a very hard thing to photo, but now , the things that were overlooked or disreguarded, I will get taken care of today. I will post my findings soon. And, thanks.
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02/06/2010 02:35 am
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 Posted 02/02/2010  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southerngent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1935 looks pretty nice but I'm not seeing the doubling on the 1916.
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 Posted 02/02/2010  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This 1916 looks nowhere close to the image in the RedBook for a DDO. Joe, do you have a RedBook? This looks like a pretty worn common date Buffalo worth a couple of bucks. If you feel it's a DDO, the end result in price difference would justify this coin being sent into a top TPG. I feel that you would be wasting submission money, but to each his own. I'm not a Buffalo expert, so I would never say definitely that it's not. But it's pretty simple to compare it to a known example or picture, and when doing so, it's not even close.

As a note, the more I stare at your pictures compared to the RedBook, the more I see things. I think it is merely my eyes trying to see something that is not there. Take it for what it's worth. Again, a 2 dollar coin could be a 1K coin for the price of a submission. If you're sure you have what you have, it's a no brainer to me.
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 Posted 02/02/2010  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the DDO 1916 Buffalo:

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It's, um, pretty obvious. If there's a question whether the doubling exists at all, then it isn't FS-016.
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 Posted 02/02/2010  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1916 nickel shown at the top is not a doubled die.

So far, unfortunately none of the coins posted from this purchase, have turned out to be much.

No errors or die varieties, yet and the coins seemed overgraded. Also, there are no P/D issues like the one you described.

I suspect the person labeling the coins marked them as whatever he/she thought they looked like and was not familiar with mint mark varieties.


Thanks,
Bill
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02/02/2010 3:00 pm
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 Posted 02/02/2010  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coretj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
great idea going to the paper's office to get the right number...
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And when I went back and forth and back and forth between my photos and Superdave's, they are identical to Superdave's photo! !

Please tell me you arent serious! The only two things these two coins have in common is they are both Buffalo nickels and the same date, that is it!
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joe, PLEASE do not go back and delete and rewrite your posts. These posts are getting very confusing to me. I see people who are talking about dates and pics that aren't there anymore, comments about stuff that was obviously posted then deleted. My head is starting to spin. Please start a new thread, or at the very least continue the old threads but, please don't delete and write over what was already written and pics that were already posted.
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 Posted 02/06/2010  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The only two things these two coins have in common is they are both Buffalo nickels and the same date, that is it!

Not to belabor this point--but I start with a healthy dose of skepticism, and see if the coin proves me wrong. I'll look for the key markers that must be present for this to be that variety. Die varieties start with the die, which creates a very consistent and obvious appearance, such as for the 1916 DDO. Therefore if those markers aren't there, they aren't there.

Good luck searching!
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 Posted 02/06/2010  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe finds to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey guys, sorry for the delay, And I did do an update earlier. I now see the serious issues regardng this nearly worthless dial up We all apparently are dealing with,and I am working on this.
What my un-delivered post said was this:
first , thanks superdave, that photo was just what I needed. And after going back and forth between the two and my viewing the coin in question , I have concluded that;
there are unmistakable and significant simularities . And with that, instead of draging it out, I will take new photos and show this that is there. Sounds unheard of ,I know, but when the Mint removed the doubled die responsable for Superdave's photo, it was either somehow filled in partially, or someone attempted to counterfit this one, or this is correct , and has been worn down. Ill study a bit more before I give my response.
Ill get these up quick as I can as I have much work to do here today. and thanks for baring with me here.
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 Posted 02/06/2010  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Joe, when a coin is in circulation for an extended period of time, it's devices or features wear. This wear often distorts the original design features to take on an appearance of being something that it is not. Letters and numbers appear to grow, and in many cases transform into a different shape altogether. Wear can be very confusing and misleading, and is a huge factor that must be considered every time that you focus on a circulated coin.
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 Posted 02/07/2010  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Joe, I hate to say this but you are wasting your time trying to prove what does not exist.

Sorry,
Bill
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