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Pocket_Change Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 2:18 pm While looking for the '92 CAM, I've noticed there seem to be two types of the WAM for this cent. One has obvious spacing between the AM the second has much narrower spacing than the first, but noticeable on closer observation. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just my eyes playing tricks? Report this Post to the Staff

Pinenut Valued Member United States 462 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 2:24 pm I think that CopperCoins once said effects like this can be due to older dies in which the letters have traveled a bit. I guess it depends on how stark the spacing differences are that you are observing. Report this Post to the Staff
Pocket_Change Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 2:29 pm I'll have to see if I can find a good example of both and post them. I broke 50 posts! Edited by Pocket_Change 02/04/2010 2:30 pm Report this Post to the Staff
steve199 Pillar of the Community United States 1882 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 4:38 pm Quote: I broke 50 posts! Cool! Sending you a PM to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I won't quit my day job... Report this Post to the Staff
hockingzig Pillar of the Community United States 1450 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 9:46 pm I have noticed that difference also,one is about half the spacing of the others. It doesn't seem to be rare, I see them in about equal amounts. Report this Post to the Staff
Halfwitty Pillar of the Community United States 1523 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 10:15 pm I have noticed that as well but the money penny is just about touching. Report this Post to the Staff
Pocket_Change Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 10:30 pm Glad to know I'm not the only one who noticed. Report this Post to the Staff
Halfwitty Pillar of the Community United States 1523 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 10:39 pm I was saving them with $ in my eyes until I did a bit more research. haha Report this Post to the Staff
Halfwitty Pillar of the Community United States 1523 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 10:42 pm This is a bit off subject but have you noticed alot of 1995 DDO's? Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 11:01 pm A 1992 Lincoln will have either the Wide AM reverse(normal and common) or the Close AM reverse(very rare), there is no in-between design. Any differences you see are due to die wear, polishing, or weak hubbing. Report this Post to the Staff
Pocket_Change Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 11:01 pm to be honest, I've tossed all the '95s in a box to go through later so I couldn't tell ya. :) I really need to make time and go through my potential error box... Report this Post to the Staff
Halfwitty Pillar of the Community United States 1523 Posts	Posted 02/04/2010 11:03 pm I'm in Ohio and seem to be finding quite a few of them. Report this Post to the Staff
hockingzig Pillar of the Community United States 1450 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 12:28 pm Biokemist, could you explain weak hubbing and how that affects the spacing on the letters? I really don't understand any of the "hubbing" stuff discussed on the forum. Can you point me to a source for some background? Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 1:15 pm A hub is what creates dies, it is a positive image of the coin while the die is a negative image. In the past, die steel was impressed on a hub, the die was annealed, and then rehubbed. this two part hubbing process is what created most doubled dies. Currently, the Mint uses a single squeeze hubbing process which involves on one impression and this was thought to eliminate the possibility of doubled dies. Instead, it created an entirely new class- Class 9 Shifted Hub Doubling- caused by slight movement during the initial seating of the die against the hub. That is why currently doubled dies seem to be confined to the center of the coin, the head of die steel is slightly convex so the center will touch the hub first. Back to weak hubbing. The design details of a hub are tapered, i.e. thicker at the bottom(near the fields) tapering towards the top, hopefully this small visual gives you the idea /-\ If a die receives a normal hubbing, the devices on the resulting coin will be strong and thick. If the die hubbing is weak, the devices will be weaker and thinner. Report this Post to the Staff
Pocket_Change Valued Member United States 129 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 1:46 pm Thanks for the information. You learn something new every day. Report this Post to the Staff
steve199 Pillar of the Community United States 1882 Posts	Posted 02/05/2010 6:37 pm Quote: In the past, die steel was impressed on a hub, the die was annealed, and then rehubbed. Just to provide a definition for a $5 word in your (great, by the way ) explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneal...(metallurgy) Report this Post to the Staff
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