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Found An "Octagonal Shaped" Canadian Cent ?

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What is this ?
Was it "fashioned" by someone....or minted that way ?
It's a 1994.
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 Posted 02/11/2010  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GFR3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
minted that way. I think the years were 1982-1997 they were like that
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I believe it was 1982 to 1996. If I recall correctly, it was done to help the vision impaired. I am going to move this topic to the Canadian forum for more answers.
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The changes in design 1981-82 (round to multi-sided) and 1996-97 (multi-sided back to round) also coincide with composition changes. In the first change, it was copper to much less copper; in the second change, the coppper-plated zinc composition was undertaken.

Somehow, those multi-sided copper cents were only 3/4 the weight of the older round ones, but are nearly just as thick at the rim! So on the books, the design change may have been to help the blind, but I think there was an ulterior motive on the part of the mint.

One last observation: one time I searched a couple boxes of cents and plotted the date versus number found. Then, I divided by mintage. On this graph, there was a SHARP drop-off from 1981 to 1982. The surviving percentage of pre-1982 "round" cents was observed to be much larger than the more recent "sided" cents.

Any theories? (Could the mint sort out the polygonal cents and re-melt them?)
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Interesting. I would expect it to be the opposite, since the pre-1982 cents have a (slightly) higher copper content.

It could be that they want to eliminate the "odd shaped cent" from circulation, but it seems that it would be more profitable to eliminate all of the copper cents if they are going through the hassle of sorting them.
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bibd,

There has been many meltings (some documented and some undocumented) by the mint including the following:

- 1858 20 cent coins
- 1942 and 1943 tombac 5 cent coins
- Most pre-1969 silver coins
- The mint is currently collecting and melting pre-1982 nickel 5, 10 and 25 cent coins
- The mint is currently collecting and melting 1982-2001, 2006 cupronickel based 5 cent coins

The guys on the realcent forum plotted the disappearence of US 1 cent coins since 1909 and they estimated coins in circulation for a given year drop by 6 to 9% per year.

http://realcent.forumco.com/topic~T...ID~14191.asp

I have never heard of any copper coin meltings by the mint, even though copper 1 cents coins are worth about 2 cents in melt value.
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Does it look like this one?

Found-An-

2.5g, 12-sided, Bronze (.980 copper, .005 tin, .015 zinc).
639 million minted.
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Sure does ! .....that's it ! ...

This was the first one I found shaped like this, so I was curious.....thanks for the answers guys !

I can find very little in the way of "reference books" for Canadian coins. There's a very expensive giant World coin book at the bookstore that includes Canada.....but I don't want to spend that much money...
They would special order me whatever I want....but I don't know what to ask for.

Can anyone reccomend some reference books for me ?
Something similar to the RedBook that includes general information, dates, mintage numbers, approx. values, etc etc.
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The usual answer to "what's the Canadian equivalent of the RedBook" is the Charlton Standard Catalogue of Canadian coins. Website for Charlton Press. I see that Canada has been issuing so many new coin types that they're forced to issue the Charlton catalogue in two volumes, now.

And to be pedantic, your Canadian cent isn't "octagonal" (8-sided), it's dodecagonal - 12-sided. The Australian 50c coin is the same shape, except the corners are pointier.
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Good info 1945V. I used to get a pre-'82 nickel in change almost every day, now I'm getting about one a week.
I got a 1967 25c a little while back, which was a real surprise!
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Years Mass Diameter/Shape Composition[9]
2000-present * 2.35 g 19.05 mm, round 94% steel, 1.5% nickel, 4.5% copper plated zinc
1997-1999 * 2.25 g 19.05 mm, round 98.4% zinc, 1.6% copper plating
1982-1996 2.5 g 19.1 mm, 12-sided 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1980-1981 2.8 g 19.0 mm, round 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1978-1979 3.24 g 19.05 mm, round 98% copper, 1.75% tin, 0.25% zinc
1942-1977 3.24 g 19.05 mm, round 98% copper, 0.5% tin, 1.5% zinc
1920-1941 3.24 g 19.05 mm, round 95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc
1876-1920 5.67 g 25.4 mm, round 95.5% copper, 3% tin, 1.5% zinc
1858-1859 4.54 g 25.4 mm, round 95% copper, 4% tin, 1% zinc
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