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Are Red Book Prices Out Of Whack?

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Several days ago I went to my local coin dealer looking to finally pick up a nice unc 1931S Lincoln. The books indicates that I should be able to find one for about $120-$200 in MS60 -MS63.
The dealer said I could through the Red Book out the window on that coin. Has anyone had any luck finding semi-key coins for Red Book prices?
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The Red Book is merely a guide. You see everyday on ebay where circulated coins sell for more than MS grades in the Red Book. This is more with the modern varieties, but you do see it with older coins from time to time.
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If I'm to believe Heritage results, your numbers are in line for all but full Red examples.
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Southerngent.I have a 31S coming back from ANACS in a few days.It should come in around EF40-45.I maybe could part with it if you're interested.
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Let me know what you are thinking on price. I do need one for my book. I was really wanting to find an AU or afordable MS but I appreciate the consideration.
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Yep, the RedBook is an approximate price guide at best. It's only designed to give a rough idea of the price. It is especially out of whack for key dates like the 31-S. The dealer is right, toss it out the window for pricing.

Conversely, I know of no other pricing guide for modern Memorial cents. They are completely ignored by common price guides and most dealers don't like to mess with them. In that respect, I consider the Red Book pricing "better than nothing".
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Should I consider signing up for getting the gray sheets? Would it be more accurate? I lake to have a really good idea of what the item I want to purchase is really worth. I don't mind paying a premium for a stellar coin but not a the sellers whim.
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As soon as it comes to me I will get some photos and we can go from there.
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Southern Gent,

As mentioned, it is just a guide. So are the other guides, such as the greysheet. For what it's worth, the greysheet shows lower prices than you mentioned for that grade range, because it is intended to be a wholesale guide.

You have to watch what they sell for (completed auctions on ha.com/ebay, and what dealers are asking for them) and decide what is a good deal for you.

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I appreciate all of the input!
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The RedBook is a coffee table book. The Gray Sheet is what you need to be using.
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I personally buy a Grey Sheet every few months, just to keep current...
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As a side note to the discussion. Halfwitty will need to wait until you've been here long enough and have 50 quality posts to sell or make a deal. Forum rules.
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The RedBook is usually about 12-15 months behind as the 2010 book is published in the middle of 2009 and a lot can happen between the time the book prices are determined, the book printed and then distributed and sold. I will never buy or sell a coin based on current RedBook.

Greysheet is wholesale so that is not valid either. Use ebay to help determine values as well as the internet as a whole. Sincerely, John Leckrone
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Mint. I have over 200 post and have been around over 15 days.I believe those are the rules.
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agree that internet sales results are a good way to measure current market conditions.
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