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One thing I want to add about my previous post.. toning with an egg gives great colors but any grading company or knowledgeable collector will be able to see that the coin was artificially toned... Which is why I did my experiment on a silver bar and not a coin. Doing this with a coin will effectively destroy the coin's numismatic value.
If this is for a science experiment then I say "Go for it". If it isn't .. I would say save your self some time and pour some motor oil on asphalt followed by some diet soda,, you will see some of the same colors.. and you won't destroy a coin.
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One of the things you can always be sure of is that the members here have a way of purging false, misleading, dishonest and generally numismatically damaging things from the forum, its truely a sight to see. Since you are an "old timer" here I am am but a mere "pup", I will defer to your wisdom!  (Thanks for making me feel a little better Metalman)  |
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Schmidty didn't say anyone would misuse the coins.
I believe as schmidty does that while you may not and probably won't ,there are many people who read these threads without registering on the forum.
here let me show you, this is right now on the forum.
Members: 68 Lurkers: 180
now I don't know who that 180 people are do you?
its really simple this forum presents the best side of numismatics we (the mods and the forum owners) have made it our purpose to make it that way and keep it that way.
we are not alone we also have very many knowledgeable and dedicated numismatists here that do a very fine job of teaching and showing others how to collect in a very responsible very honest way.
we teach many we never get to know or even talk to its all of our responsibilities to make sure that we teach the good stuff.
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I agree with schmidty, we should not be speaking about artificially toning coins because some lurker could see this and decide he wants to make a profit on ebay, but on the other hand, this is also a great science experiment. so I agree with both sides equally. but we all know that CCF members will never cheat anyone. (for example, I have posted a "unreached" wheat roll on ebay but after I got mine, I realized how bad the guy who would get it must feel so I removed it immediately so you can call me guilty of almost scamming) |
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I remember a guy that had built a pretty nice reputation on another high profile coin forum about being a straight up guy and even calling others out when they stepped out of line and then one day he got caught. He was toning coins in the PCGS slab (I will not divulge how) and it wasn't a week later this guy pretty much disappeared at least his old nick did and a few others he tried to use but was found out pretty quickly. This guy bought back all the coins he had sold (he didn't need the money he was a medical doctor by trade if I am not mistaken) he just got greedy and found a loop hole where if people see the coin in PCGS plastic then it must be natural toning and no one ever questioned him on it. He went from being a hero to zero in just a few days of it being found out and the word spread on many forums. No matter how strong the temptation is, its just not worth it. In the end he didn't make much money at all because he bought back just about every doctored coin he had created and lost all integrity both in his hobby and in his field because both are integrity based and it was proven he would do anything for the right price
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i hate people who do that
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Thank you Metalman...you made my point much better than I did. coins92, I was absolutely not attacking you, or anyone else that posted in this thread. And, my intention was not to call your integrity or honesty into question. The only reason I mentioned lafaa by name, and said I knew he was a good guy, is because we have exchanged posts on the forum and e-mails away from the forum. In short, just because I think positively of laffa, does not mean I think negatively of you, or anyone else, posting their opinions here. The only thing I think negatively of is the topic. And I refer you back to Metalman's post. He stated it the way I wish I had!  |
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I realized how bad the guy who would get it must feel so I removed it immediately Way to go, lafaa! That makes me happy to have done business with you! |
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Members: 68 Lurkers: 180 just one of the members lurking metalman's post caught my eye and I do agree this subject is very interesting.... for whatever  ... and yes, I also do agree with metalman... |
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but we all know that CCF members will never cheat anyone Even though that is what we strive for here it is unreasonable to think its the case all the time here. We do try to weed out the bad guys but sometimes they do slip in under the radar. If I am not mistaken there is one thread now about one member that had completed transactions before without problems but his last one went bad and now they have disappeared. Even here you need to use caution because its sometimes after the fact that we find out about these members but I would trust 99.9% of our members with just about anything because usually the members here as metalman has already said do not last very long will weed out the ones lacking the integrity to be a true contributing member here |
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Has anyone tried using raw sulphur to try toning a coin. Do you think piling sulfur around the edges of a blast white, clean fielded coin would provide results? Is there any place where a kid my age could by sulfur. I think people would assume I'm trying to make some kind pf explosive contraption.
If you stick around here long enough you would see how many times you ask something like what time is it and you'll end up with about 20 or more answers but they will be on how to build a clock, who invented clocks, why clocks have hands instead of pointers, etc. So to get off the track and try to answer your ORIGINAL question, I would like to ask just how old are you? The reason is if your in high school, just enroll in the Chemistry Class. Usually a lot of it there. Too bad Gilbert Chemistry company isn't around. They used to send out anything you want. You could ask your parents to check out a phamacist. May be able to get you some there. As already noted most match heads are loaded with that too. The wooden ones can be ground up and presto, you have powdered Sulfur full of other stuff though. With the internet the way it is I would think you could just find a chemistry supply house on line that would send you a ton if you paid for that much. And rememeber toning a coin actually makes it a AT coin and not worth much but for an experiment, you might find out what you shouldn't be doing. If you really are interested in AT a coin, you should just check out the Search thing at the top and type in Toning or tarnishing or corroding or Sulfur and on and on and on. If your sort of interested in Toned coins, there is a TC forum for TonedCoins you know. |
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Thanks Carl, I am 17 and have already taken chemistry. I strongly favor chemistry over every other science, but if I were to ask anyone of the chemistry teachers for even the smallest amount of sulfur I would get the same reaction as if I had walked into the school with a flamethrower. I guess I will look around on the internet. Thanks for answering my original question! |
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Check your area for an apothecary pharmacy, that is where I used to purchase it when I was a kid. However, I was not using it to tone coins, I had a penchant for experimenting with making my own blackpowder. There is a good reason why I had the nickname Dr Torch when I was a teenager  |
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No need to buy sulfur! Just make your own hydrogen sulfide (H2S), most any rotting organic matter will give off H2S. Just put the coin in a sealed container with an apple slice (not direct contact) and watch what happens over the next few days.
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