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playing with my camera in the day time maybe these will come out good.. any opinions...and grade??

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 Posted 02/28/2010  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing the slightest bit of rub on the back of the cap and some of the leaves in the wreath, I'm going to say AU-58.
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Echizento, I highly respect your grading capabilities, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

I love the frostiness of this coin. I think any problems with this coin are due to the picture not showing the right amount of detail that is present. I don't believe there's wear on this one.

I think it's an MS-64 coin.
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I'm going to say MS-63 at least, probably a 64.
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 Posted 02/28/2010  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS 64! one post to go!
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Thanks for your time all...one thing I'm really noticing about my photo's is the color is way off...this one was much closer but the luster isn't really showing, I found SuperDaves link about photo's so I hope that will help me.. both my day and night time photo's are getting better for detail but I still have along way to go!
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 Posted 03/01/2010  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at this coin for a long time trying to determine if it was rub or maybe the lighting. I erred on the side of caution and went with rub.
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I went with rub to. Then changed my mind.
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Morgan strike quality varies so widely that it's difficult to be sure based on *any* photo, regardless of how good it is. But we grade them anyways.

I look at the obverse of this coin and see wear. The hair above the ear seems a little "rounded," implying wear rather than weak strike. The cotton bolls seen to be showing wear; a weak strike will cause the little dimples to disappear in a band across them and I still see some of those dimples where they wouldn't be if it's a strike issue. The lower hair is nicely detailed, indicative of a strong strike as well.

The reverse shows more obvious weak-strike evidence. The talons and the largest leaf - to the viewer's left of the mint mark - are flattened. Circulation wear will affect the breast and neck first, and I see very little interruption in the original frostiness in those areas.

Now, we factor in what we know about this specific year/mint.

I've seen some downright-flat Mint State 1904-O's. It seems that San Francisco and New Orleans had differing opinions of appropriate striking pressure. This one is actually pretty well-struck for a New Orleans coin.

Conclusions? None, LOL. Could be AU58, could be MS64. Not enough evidence to be sure either way. This is the point, with a given coin, where I start inspecting the reeding under magnification to see if I can see any wear.
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My "guess" MS64. As mentioned New Orleans strikes are weak and the 04-O has some weak ones. This is especially true of the hair details just above Liberty's ear. If you can verify that luster remains on the area, the lack of marks in the fields would put this in the MS-64 ballpark. Very attractive 04-O and the eagle's breast feathers show detail (usually lacking on these).
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