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Authentication Help Needed With 1914-D Lincoln

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 Posted 06/17/2006  2:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,
I picked up a few 1914 D's. One of them is a little questionable as to the authenticity of it.

This is the questionable one:
Authentication-Help-Needed-With-1914-D-Lincoln

This one I really have no doubt it is good:
Authentication-Help-Needed-With-1914-D-Lincoln

If the first one is bad, it was not due to a shaved 1944. It would have to be an added mintmark. I just don't know... I mean I do know what to look for. Here is one of my pages on my site for the 14-D on what to look for.
http://oicoins.com/index_files/Page477.htm

So... watcha'll think?
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 Posted 06/17/2006  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coolg35748 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to me to be a shaved 44 the number befor the four is not the same shape as the 1 under it. Either it has been wore down or it is shaved.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coolg35748 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Notice how the bottom of the 1 looks different than the other.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that (the shape of the 1) is due to whatever made the D the shape it is, if it is a good piece. Because all 1914 D's had the exact same style mintmark.
The does not have the VDB as would a 44-D. The shoulder is complete and does not appear to have been tampered with in any way. I would be confident saying this was not a shaved 44-D.
Also, you cannot see any signs of a shaved 4 as you can on the other coins pictured on that link.
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Hi Jd

The first one pictured is an added mint mark, (classic) text book example,, the mint mark has been tooled up.



The second looks like a good coin to me.

Rick
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 Posted 06/17/2006  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And that is something you are fairly confident of Rick?
Not that I am questioning your expertise... I just don't want to make an ___ outta myself when I go to return it because I say it is bad.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jd

Do you have a copy of PCGS Grading and counterfiet detection,, the altered cent looks like they used your coin for the photo .

There are two popular ways that these cents are altered to make the 1914-D either the 4 is shaved or the mintmark is built up and tooled,, if you have the ability to look at that mint mark under some significant magnification, The tooling and roughness around the mint mark should be evident.

The center is also a point of interest note on the second coin the triangular shape of the mint mark as opposed by the rounded smaller inside of the first. also the top and bottom of the unaltered cent will be straight where as the altered starts the curve much sooner.

Rick
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 Posted 06/17/2006  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not competent with this series, but it's fairly easy to see areas near the mintmark which look like they've been mined for metal to add to the mintmark. It's especially clear northeast from it.
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 Posted 06/17/2006  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdheyne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do see what you are talking about to the north east.
I have the book, but not with my right now. once I get back home I will check the book (I kind of overlooked that)
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