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2 German Tokens 192x | Aachen Tokens

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Here is couple German tokens:
1-With 1 pfennig 1929:
"Who does not honor pfennig is not worth talers"
Kreissparkasse aachen-I don't know that's this mean
2-15
"Catholic journeyman-house aachen"?
Maybe anybody saw similar before?

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 Posted 03/06/2010  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aachen is a city; I'll have to see what I can find out about the rest of it.

Looks to me like the first one is like those good luck tokens that had a collar around a Lincoln Cent, popular back in the 20s and 30s.
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"Kreissparkasse" translates to "Regional Savings Bank". The four-leaf-clover and horseshoe indicates it's intended as a "good luck piece". The coin must have been inserted into the aluminium ring sometime after 1929.

The Catholic piece probably dates from the period either during or just after WWI, when many cities, towns and private organizations issued "notgeld" tokens. My "Checklist of World Notgeld" lists private metal tokens from Aachen as being "common".
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Thank you for help! Now I see why online translator could not translate AACHEN.
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This "Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt, ist des Talers nicht wert" is a common saying or proverb in German. The "Kreis" in the word "Kreissparkasse" would be pretty much the equivalent of a US county; today's Sparkasse Aachen is the result of a merger of the city's and the county's savings banks.

And yes, "Katholisches Gesellenhaus" means something like House for Catholic Journeymen. The concept goes back to the initiative of Adolph Kolping. Here is some (very basic) info about the Aachen Kolpinghaus. Whether it was notgeld or rather some kind of token, I don't know ...

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I have purchased some old German coins in the last few years. Like banknotes the period of this 1929 coin is shortly after hyper inflation destroyed the german economy at the end of WW1. A lot of towns and cities issued there own banknotes and coinage sometime minting them from aluminium (banknotes as well)and silk (banknotes only) Sparkasse is a Savings Bank and this would appear to be a token created by the bank and maybe given to children or to people who had accounts at the time. Loosly translated the inscription reads "If you don't honour the penny then you don't deserve the dollars" The symbolic four leaf clover is also here in Germany a "Gluecks clay" or Lucky Clover. It would have had no monetary value as it has no country designators. the second coin would be like the early Australian token created by individuals for goods or services to bring them customers. The Gesellen (handyman) for the Catholic Church would accept this token for 15 pfennigs worth of services. This is as best as I can do.
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Love the german stuff. Those are great tokens. WOLF
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